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Re: World ocean temperatures in 2021 were the hottest ever recorded

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Post by mikeyouse »

matsemann wrote: post #16
mrjangles wrote: post #8

Not only does science show the current temperatures are getting hotter than ever. We now know the past 50 years was colder than we ever thought. With new advanced scientific techniques, we now have a much better idea what the temperature was 50 years ago than they did 50 years ago. It should be kept in mind, these new temperatures measured now are not breaking records compared to the temperatures measure 50 years ago…

I don't understand this. How / why is near-historic data being changed? Got any more material on this?

There’s not much to understand— some crank thinks he found the dark secret of climate scientists. His blog is the typical nutter mishmash of mindless conspiracy theories from “putting mRNA In the food supply” (https://realclimatescience.com/2022/01/putting-mrna-in-the-f...) to antivaxxer garbage (https://realclimatescience.com/2022/01/study-shows-covid-vac...) to big pharma conspiracies (https://realclimatescience.com/2022/01/herding-the-sheeple-f...) to all manner of climate conspiracy theories.

He and everything he touches can be safely ignored.

Re: World ocean temperatures in 2021 were the hottest ever recorded

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Post by sumedh »

irrational wrote: post #14
KETpXDDzR wrote: post #9

I have the feeling that many people (especially politicians) think that global warming is a linear process. It's not. It might even be exponential since some sources for climate-warming are affected by warmer climate. For example, melting ice that reflects sunlight back to space [ https://arcticwwf.org/places/last-ice-area/ ]. I'm thinking about choosing a new place to live right now. Climate change is a big factor f…

Personally I would not buy property south of the 45th parallel anymore (in the northern hemisphere). Even north of that we have seen shockingly high temperatures. Anything south of that will become a hellscape within our lifetime.

> Personally I would not buy property south of the 45th parallel anymore

Obama bought a property in Martha's Vineyard, why would a former President with all the knowledge about global warming buy it?

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Post by klipt »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #61
jvanderbot wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, the birds aren't going to fix climate change. I can't speak for the women you know, but the women I know in their 20s-30s tell me they aren't thinking about children at all probably thanks to the empowerment of women of the last 100 years. Over my life, I've heard all kinds of excuses for all people to not consider children until they are in their late 30s or 40s, then it's a rush. I did the same. I'm not sure…

Most people I know are not having children because they don't have the economic stability to do so. Housing, individual low/middle income tax burden, cost of living, stagnated wages over the last several decades for all but the top 25%.

What's funny is if you're completely broke and have kids, there are tons of government benefits designed to keep you afloat. But if you have a little too much money to qualify for those benefits, you'll feel like you'll never have money for kids.

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Post by 908B64B197 »

tenpies wrote: post #71
rednerrus wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

North Dakota.

Calgary. It amazes me that despite the Chinese money laundering, the Trudeau Federal government willingness to back residential real estate through monetary, immigration, and legal policies; and just the general Canadian willingness to pretend everyone is well-intended and no one would lie in a mortgage application; that Calgary is the one place in Canada that remains somewhat reasonably priced. Multiple road and rai…

> economy is 50% real estate,

That mirrors what Canadians have told me. There's little interest in innovation and building tech when the simplest way to make money is simply housing.

The CSeries comes to mind, it was almost ready and had orders for years, then the Trump admin slapped tariffs on it and Trudeau did basically nothing. All it needed was a little capital injection while waiting for the courts to declare the tariffs illegal and remove them. Instead, Airbus bought it for virtually nothing.

As someone in tech, it's scary to see how little support such an innovative plane got from the government. This would never happen here with Boeing (just look at the 737 MAX) or in Europe with Airbus. And the A220 (the rebranded name) is making a fortune for European investors right now.

> immigration is 95% of population growth and has resulted in a very exploitative and corrupt system that lures in young people to be poorly-paid expendable labour under the guise of Canadian Permanent Resident

The point of immigration is to fill a shortage. That's why here there are rules regarding salary requirements for immigration purposes. If a job isn't paying a lot, it's because it's not in demand; why then bring-in more people to an already saturated market? What’s the logic here?

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Post by DrAwdeOccarim »

funkykong wrote: post #73
toomuchtodo wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sulfur dioxide aerosol injection in the stratosphere until carbon capture and decarbonization can catch up. We desperately need an energy inexpensive way to sequester atmospheric carbon underground in stable (mineral) form. Hopefully we’ll see progress from Climeworks or similar concerns in this space. https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aae98d/...

I wonder if Venusians tried the same thing which lead to the concentrations of SO2 we see in Venus' atmosphere.

Someone should make this a movie.

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Post by redprince »

goldenchrome wrote: post #28
willio58 wrote: post #18

Is anyone on HN reconsidering having children because of climate change? Recently I've had a big shift myself on this topic, probably influenced by not many women my age (younger than 30) having any interest in bringing a child into a world where they could potentially suffer real physical danger due to climate change.

If you are strong and capable you should have kids to help build a better tomorrow. There aren't many young women who want to have kids because there aren't many young men who seem strong enough to bear the responsibility.

I always enjoy when the decision against having kids is subtly framed as a weakness or a character flaw.

I posit a different guideline: If having kids is something you feel is of vital importance to you personally and not because other people expect it from you, then by all means, try to find someone who feels the same way and have kids.

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Post by lotsofpulp »

jvanderbot wrote: post #70
KennyBlanken wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people I know are not having children because they don't have the economic stability to do so. Housing, individual low/middle income tax burden, cost of living, stagnated wages over the last several decades for all but the top 25%.

Let me tell you one thing I've learned: There's never ever a good time to have children.

I imagine raising children is much easier if you can afford round the clock nannies.

Or even just retired physically able grandparents a few doors down who can help serve as a redundancy.

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Post by boppo1 »

anonporridge wrote: post #40
willio58 wrote: post #18

Is anyone on HN reconsidering having children because of climate change? Recently I've had a big shift myself on this topic, probably influenced by not many women my age (younger than 30) having any interest in bringing a child into a world where they could potentially suffer real physical danger due to climate change.

Of much greater concern to me is the stability of my income potential in a world that's increasingly automated and career stability is gone. I feel like my default is no children, and that will only change if and only if I reach a level of wealth that I can feel very comfortable committing to the ~18 years of directly raising a new human, the 4+ years thereafter for continuing education, and all the costs associated…

I'm 30 and lived with my parents until I was 26. Not gonna lie, it made me soft.

When my kids turn 18, we'll fight to the death in the backyard. If they win, they get my stuff. If they lose, I'll have some more & repeat the process. Don't think I'll be around long enough for a third go.

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Post by state_less »

threatofrain wrote: post #47
KETpXDDzR wrote: post #9

I have the feeling that many people (especially politicians) think that global warming is a linear process. It's not. It might even be exponential since some sources for climate-warming are affected by warmer climate. For example, melting ice that reflects sunlight back to space [ https://arcticwwf.org/places/last-ice-area/ ]. I'm thinking about choosing a new place to live right now. Climate change is a big factor f…

Where ought one move to optimize for climate change?

Under a set of solar panels in a viable watershed that’s not too cold in the winter where you need to burn fossil fuels to heat your house.

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Post by jvanderbot »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #87
jvanderbot wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me tell you one thing I've learned: There's never ever a good time to have children.

I imagine raising children is much easier if you can afford round the clock nannies. Or even just retired physically able grandparents a few doors down who can help serve as a redundancy.

Maybe, but man, money can't help you be a good parent.

You're tired, at work, and not part of their day-to-day life. It'd almost be easier to be 20 and have mom/dad still around and just start career at 35. Hell, I practically started my career at 35 and have nothing to show for the delay!

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