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Asian Boss planted deep blue YouTuber and pretended he was a 'man on the street'

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Re: Asian Boss planted deep blue YouTuber and pretended he was a 'man on the street'

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I'm just trying to get an honest overview of the history. Fascist is not necessarily a dirty word, just a style of government.

it's more of a state ideology than a style of government - I don't think fascism has any defining economic positions, for instance, except opposition to socialism.

I'm talking about Fascism as it is commonly understood: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

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Well, things like the normalization of everyday life (nothing like under Maoism where everybody was paranoid and millions died, people live regular lives, even with the authoritative rule of the party), opening up to businesses, lifting hundreds of millions out of poverty, big health and education access, huge infrastructure updates and development, great technical and scientific progress, becoming the world's number…

>Well, things like the normalization of everyday life (nothing like under Maoism where everybody was paranoid and millions died, people live regular lives, even with the authoritative rule of the party), opening up to businesses, lifting hundreds of millions out of poverty, big health and education access, huge infrastructure updates and development, great technical and scientific progress, becoming the world's numbe…

Really scary that some people don't realize the parallels between Germany in the 1930s and, uh, people not starving anymore.

Re: Asian Boss planted deep blue YouTuber and pretended he was a 'man on the street'

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I used to see these Vox Pop YouTube videos occasionally. Like the line up videos, street interviews and what not. The issue I realized people are never going to give their open and unbiased opinion about something. Because they are moderated, edited and these people are always subjected to some form peer pressure from the group or the producers surrounding them.

Moreover the questions are drafted in a "so you are saying" kind of way. Now that is assuming the production is random and fair and they are not hiring actors or screening people based on their political belief systems, which is obviously not the case.

Being outside of US, I thought there are geopolitical and socially ambiguous questions which were drafted in a pattern that subtly were politically biased.

Now, subtle political biasness would make people think I am a little bit out there. But what I realized I don't inherently have any strong political feelings at all. There are some objectively true facts that are often being manipulated to fit narratives. So it is best just to ignore these shows all together.

These Vox Pop crap is nothing better than day time reality shows like 90 Days Fiancé, but atleast these reality shows are transparently stupid and does not want toy with an agenda.

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...and also Chinese Wall and Kung-fu... CCP did everything it could to wipe out old traditions, and replace them with communism and cult of leaders. Latter they realized it is not enough to keep coherent national identity, and started promoting a few symbols they liked from past. The "big red door decorations" is not Chinese culture, it is a small fragment of it. > It is simply absurd to claim Chinese culture only su…

> I do not claim that. It did not survived at all on mainland. So your claim is even more absurd. I guess that language they're speaking on the mainland must be French then?

Big part of Africa speaks French. Language is not related to culture.

Look what CCP did to languages (other than Mandarin), ethnic identity (other than Han) and writing systems.

Re: Asian Boss planted deep blue YouTuber and pretended he was a 'man on the street'

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For me it was apparent this channel is pure propoganda and i'm astonished this is up so high on HN. Couldn't even take the channel serious.

Which videos/topics are affected by that, in your opinion? Just curious what you have seen, since they have videos from multiple countries by multiple authors.

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Taiwan is the leftover of the fascist faction, is it not? Not exactly a paragon of Chinese cultural history. We're just looking at a very, very slow civil war.

I mean if you must compare, the Nationalists that modern Taiwan derives from is more similar to a _conservative_ party in the west while the CCP is a more _progressive_ (and fascist if you view it that way) party.

That being said, the modern day CCP under Xi's rule has started becoming more conservative, while Taiwan's relatively free political climate has given rise to their own versions of progressive political parties.

Re: Asian Boss planted deep blue YouTuber and pretended he was a 'man on the street'

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post #31

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It's journalism by selective editing. Fairly widespread practice.

Fairly widespread is undercutting it. It's universal practice. People hold journalists to crazy high standards of integrity and soothsaying, and the older I get the more it boggles the mind that grown adults still cling on to this. Journalists work for private corporations who write things for a target audience to make money. That's all there is to it.

> Journalists work for private corporations who write things for a target audience to make money. That's all there is to it.

Not universally true. There's some big corporations like News Corp that from a top level are in it to make money and push a right-wing narrative, but lower down there's a lot of journalists that do things for the public good. Think about the journalists that handled Snowden and Manning's revelations, think Wikileaks, think the journalists that got footage from Gitmo proving the US is committing war crimes, think those that reported on the Panama and Paradise Papers, on Epstein and 'the elite's pedophile rings, the list goes on.

These people have risked and sometimes lost their freedoms and their lives. Would you do that if it was just about money? Or are you just projecting your own motivators in life?

Re: Asian Boss planted deep blue YouTuber and pretended he was a 'man on the street'

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post #35

I wonder how many accounts the chinese state maintains on hackernews to upvote/downvote post and comments. It's an easy way to influence the public opinion and hard to expose.

Not many, I think. I usually look at the new section of HN and check what has been flagged unreasonably. Anti-chinese post are rarely flagged multiple times.

My opinion is that there are honest pro-chinese people on HN, most likely chinese working in the US who don't plan to stay for life and feel patriotic enough to protect the fatherland on internet forums.

Re: Asian Boss planted deep blue YouTuber and pretended he was a 'man on the street'

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Almost everything, including the writing system. They even thought about romanisation, but instead just settled on butchering many of the complex characters without fully considering the historical, linguistic or aesthetic concerns.

Even if you are a staunch traditionalist, "almost everything" is a massive exaggeration. The entire country still effectively shuts down for two weeks during the lunar new year. Sure this would be among the first things to go in an authoritarian state hell-bent on industrialization and yet it has persisted.

Of course that's a figure of speech, but hey, ok.

With regards to the lunar new year break, Communist regimes actually have lots of public holidays. That's straight from their ideology, so not sure why you think that authoritarianism must equal to oppressing worker rights or the labour movement. That's why there is a distinction between the authoritarian left and the authoritarian right.

Re: Asian Boss planted deep blue YouTuber and pretended he was a 'man on the street'

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It's also pretty hard to claim there is one Chinese culture.

Very true. North and South have different food cultures, and dialects between different regions can be borderline incomprehensible to each other, just off the top of my head.

If you want to nitpick, it's not just different dialects but different languages. Mutual intelligibility is a common line used to split things into separate languages and most of the Sinitic language group "languages" are true languages as they aren't mutually intelligible. It's a bunch of different languages with a shared writing system and more mutual intelligibility in writing than in spoken words.
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