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Re: noDRM's GitHub repo DeDRM_tools is disabled due to Readium's DMCA notice

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post #45

Good. Like it or not, anticircumvention measures are black-letter law in much of the world. In the USA, producing or distributing software designed to circumvent DRM can subject you to civil and criminal penalties. According to 17 U.S.C. section 512, it is not necessary for the material itself to be infringing in order for a DMCA notice to be valid. If "an activity using the material" is infringing, the material must…

> Good.

I don't get your comment. Are you happy that the law is being enforced, or happy that the law is like that?

Re: noDRM's GitHub repo DeDRM_tools is disabled due to Readium's DMCA notice

#82
What can we do to oppose this idiocy that is trampling legitimate fair-use provisions of otherwise licensed content? It's been 10 years since the SOPA protests and while we may have stopped that three headed monster, the global situation with USA attempting to expand DMCA and similar measures to other countries is atrocious.

Other than recent EU court rulings potentially expanding what constitutes fair-use in that territory the situation is not looking good in the West.

Re: noDRM's GitHub repo DeDRM_tools is disabled due to Readium's DMCA notice

#83

Damn. I rely on this software to read ebooks on my Remarkable tablet. I do this because I like giving at least a few pennies of royalty percentage to the author, and as far as I understand it, it's legal on my end to circumvent DRM for the sole purpose of interoperability for my legally-purchased content. Of course, if they really don't want my money, there's always libgen.

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Re: noDRM's GitHub repo DeDRM_tools is disabled due to Readium's DMCA notice

#84

Damn. I rely on this software to read ebooks on my Remarkable tablet. I do this because I like giving at least a few pennies of royalty percentage to the author, and as far as I understand it, it's legal on my end to circumvent DRM for the sole purpose of interoperability for my legally-purchased content. Of course, if they really don't want my money, there's always libgen.

In the context of DRM protected content, no it is not something you're allowed to do. (Frustrating, yes.)

Re: noDRM's GitHub repo DeDRM_tools is disabled due to Readium's DMCA notice

#85
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, there are cases in which courts said approximately that implementing an algorithm (especially an algorithm that is a secret¹) without permission can be a violation of §1201. Recall (a)(3)(A) to “circumvent a technological measure” means to descramble a scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without the authorit…

What happens if you print out the source code and publish it as a book? Can the courts prohibit a book? Phil Zimmermann asked this question in the context of export controls on "cryptography technology", i.e. the PGP software. MIT Press published the source code in 1995. But the US dropped its objections and this wasn't specifically tested in court (AFAIK, though similar questions were). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki…

Do not think this has been tested under the DMCA statute unfortunately.

The closest parallel was when 2600 Magazine was prevented from publishing DeCSS on their website by a court decision.

https://www.eff.org/pages/unintended-consequences-fifteen-ye...

Re: noDRM's GitHub repo DeDRM_tools is disabled due to Readium's DMCA notice

#86

Damn. I rely on this software to read ebooks on my Remarkable tablet. I do this because I like giving at least a few pennies of royalty percentage to the author, and as far as I understand it, it's legal on my end to circumvent DRM for the sole purpose of interoperability for my legally-purchased content. Of course, if they really don't want my money, there's always libgen.

In the context of DRM protected content, no it is not something you're allowed to do. (Frustrating, yes.)

depends on what country you live in. Not everyone lives in the USA

Re: noDRM's GitHub repo DeDRM_tools is disabled due to Readium's DMCA notice

#87

Personally I'm actually of the opinion that people should just forget about working around DRM preventing legal access to content and just forget about DRM encumbered content altogether. Having work arounds adds value to otherwise worthless file formats. Dont support it, dont recommend it. dont even talk about it other than to say "meh, DRM'd you couldnt pay me enough to use it". Quite an extreme stance I know, but t…

Generally I find that recommending individual, uncoordinated action as a solution to a system issue to be generally unsuccessful. Something like this either needs a coordinated response like a boycott, or a political solution.

Yes and users aren't going to boycott so it goes back to one of the main reasons we have a government, to battle ludicrous policies that an old government passed.

Re: noDRM's GitHub repo DeDRM_tools is disabled due to Readium's DMCA notice

#88

What can we do to oppose this idiocy that is trampling legitimate fair-use provisions of otherwise licensed content? It's been 10 years since the SOPA protests and while we may have stopped that three headed monster, the global situation with USA attempting to expand DMCA and similar measures to other countries is atrocious. Other than recent EU court rulings potentially expanding what constitutes fair-use in that te…

The EU should oppose this. I mean the publishers greased the palms of Senators and Representatives here, not in the European union thus they are owed nothing.
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