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Re: I Miss RSS

#81
While this topic is still on the front page, does anyone have some feed recommendations? Some of my favorites are Hackaday, Damn Interesting (including curated links), and hnrss for terms like side project.

Re: I Miss RSS

#82
When I see articles like this, my reaction is always: when did RSS go away? I have close to 200 sites in my Feedly list, and I have trouble keeping up with all the articles I get from RSS every day.

I think that what the author really means is that he misses RSS feeds from Twitter. I don't use Twitter, so from my perspective, RSS is as present and useful as it was 20 years ago.

Re: I Miss RSS

#83

I follow Hacker News through RSS, as well as most webcomics that I follow. There is one webcomic I enjoy, but can't get an RSS feed, because it's on a service similar to WebToons.

If you're familiar with CSS selectors, you could try this that I work on to generate a feed from the webcomic site: https://createfeed.fivefilters.org/

Re: I Miss RSS

#84
Sort of obvious why RSS went away. It is really hard to put ads into RSS. Sure you can just add a update but that's not really feasible (and could be filtered). So the large sites just started removing it and it helped them capture ad sales.

Re: I Miss RSS

#85
post #48

The author paints it as some kind of conspiracy, but the simple truth is that RSS waned in popularity once push notifications became popular and widespread. Every user's RSS reader polling every website for changes every few minutes for all eternity is horribly inefficient and unfeasible to do on most platforms and devices today (especially on mobile). Pub/sub is the clear way forward, but it's just sad that there is…

> Every user's RSS reader polling every website for changes every few minutes for all eternity is horribly inefficient

I think you're greatly overestimating this inefficiency. Especially for websites properly implementing the HTTP protocol. 'Push' requires a lot more complexity and it's also outside of the user's control. For fuck's sake, you can just serve a static file. We've been doing this for decades.

Talking about control, my hypothesis is that it was the main driver of the downfall of RSS. It started when Google killed Reader and Facebook took control of what you see in the timeline. Users picking and choosing what/when to read is not compatible with the way the major gatekeepers of information drive engagement.

Re: I Miss RSS

#86

Sort of obvious why RSS went away. It is really hard to put ads into RSS. Sure you can just add a update but that's not really feasible (and could be filtered). So the large sites just started removing it and it helped them capture ad sales.

As a podcast producer, I wish we would wholesale replace RSS soon. It feels like the most paper clip nonsense at this point.

Re: I Miss RSS

#87
I use FreshRSS (because it works in the macOS and Android RSS readers I use) behind a Wireguard VPN. So, nobody can access it, except myself.

Re: I Miss RSS

#89

When I see articles like this, my reaction is always: when did RSS go away? I have close to 200 sites in my Feedly list, and I have trouble keeping up with all the articles I get from RSS every day. I think that what the author really means is that he misses RSS feeds from Twitter. I don't use Twitter, so from my perspective, RSS is as present and useful as it was 20 years ago.

Yeh, came here to say this. I love RSS, it is such a nice balance of enabling me to keep up with stuff but under my own terms and at my own speed.

It feels very much like an alive protocol to me, and more in need than ever before given the insane calls on everyone's attention.

And to the guy with "service shutdown fear" - just export your opml and bring it into another service. It's highly portable and imo totally mitigates any risk of getting locked in then locked out.

Re: I Miss RSS

#90
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alright, I'll bite. Consider a “decentralised” blockchain system that does the work of The Pirate Bay – providing hashes of particular files, along with their names, so that people can select and request data from the P2P network. How, exactly, does this system help with RSS in any way ? Additionally, how does this system help with the “censorship” issues that The Pirate Bay has? Even when The Pirate Bay remains up,…

How, exactly, does this system help with RSS in any way? You cannot make a Twitter-2-RSS bridge because Twitter block access to the data. In a decentralized system, access to the data is inherent. Even when The Pirate Bay remains up, that doesn't mean anybody's seeding That is where the financial incentives come into play. Seeding will be economically incentivised. If all the data is directly on the blockchain, nobod…

> In a decentralized system, access to the data is inherent.

Well, yeah – but we already have that. It's called the Fediverse. No blockchain in sight. (In fact, it predates Bitcoin.)

> That is where the financial incentives come into play. Seeding will be economically incentivised.

The margin for any given piece of content will be low, so there's an economic incentive to honour takedown requests, no matter how fraudulent or unenforceable, if the effort to check whether they're valid is lower than the expected average reward minus the expected average legal cost.

> We have approaches now where participants only need to download arbitrarely small parts of the chain. Yet the network as a whole keeps the chain intact.

We had those back in Satoshi's time, too. They work by having n centralised trusted nodes, then asking all your peers to double-check what you got from those trusted nodes. That approach is, surprisingly enough, also vulnerable to censorship!

(Also, I don't really think your proposed scheme is good enough to have Satoshi's name associated with it. The innovation of Bitcoin was the coin melting pot thing, not the blockchain; Satoshi's original blockchain, which Bitcoin still mostly uses, was just a worse version of Git repositories.)

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