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Japanese game developer hasn't left the house in 10 years

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Re: Japanese game developer hasn't left the house in 10 years

#81

It is a shame that the hikkomori is a trend and becoming popular with COVID.

I think the relevant question is “why are people dropping out of society in greater numbers than ever before? What changed?”

>why are people dropping out of society in greater numbers than ever before? What changed?

Why not?

You grow being told that you go to school, you get the high grades, you get the good job, make friends, marry the girl, pop a few kids, and you're happy.

But it's never enough. There's always something you did wrong, always more you need to do right. You force yourself to do the things you're expected or you're forced to do the things you're expected to be happy about even when inside you're inside you scream and weep and want it all to just go away. Always more you must be doing it.

Hold on, they will tell you. Things will get better if you keep going, they will tell you.

You look at all the fighting at home. There's never any laughing or fun talk; you dread coming home because one wrong word or a wrong look and it's more shouting. This is what being with the girl you love is like? Turning home from a refuge into a place of fear and terror?

Hold on, they will tell you. Things will get better if you keep going, they will tell you.

Ultimately that turns out to be fine for you. You can't really get bring yourself to really befriend anyone anyways. You have nothing in common with anyone else. You have nothing you can say and nothing you can do that would make their lives just that little bit better. So you say nothing. And you do nothing. You just keep going on and on to the next thing and the next thing after that.

Hold on, they will tell you. Things will get better if you keep going, they will tell you.

But five years later on, and it didn't get better. Ten years on and it didn't get better. Twenty five years later and it never got better. On that day you realize what a sham it all was. It never got better, and it never will get better. They were lying to you all along. There is no better tomorrow.

And then you realize something else. Maybe that's fine to. The sun rises, other people laugh and play, and the world moves on whether you're there or not. So you just keep doing it. No hopes. No dreams. No future. Just never ending Now where you just survive the day, only to wake up and do it all over again until you don't.

So... after all that. Why not?

I realize that it might not help answer why more and more might choose to do so. I can't really offer answers to that. I can only answer why one person might choose to.

Re: Japanese game developer hasn't left the house in 10 years

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> Per ITK, Nito only leaves his apartment to get a haircut and take out the trash, as well as any other activity that absolutely requires him to step outside of the comfort of his room. He gets all of his groceries and whatever else he needs delivered, eliminating the need to go shopping. Huh, I thought Japan is more developed, in China delivery companies offer taking out the trash service for years, they deliver you…

>Huh, I thought Japan is more developed, in China delivery companies offer taking out the trash service for years, they deliver you groceries and on the way out they take out your trash. You mean a guy comes into your apartment, puts groceries in the fridge or puts them on the table and then proceeds with collecting your trash for you?

they deliver you groceries to your apartment door, where they will also pick up your trash and throw it outside in the bin, they don't enter apartment

years ago when living there used this to deliver groceries to my air purified apartment I didn't leave sometimes for days, it was always nice punch in the nose after opening door and smelling the burning (smoggy) air

Re: Japanese game developer hasn't left the house in 10 years

#83

I can feel for this guy. I just spent 8 years without seeing the sun or breathing fresh air. (Jail) I hope he's taking some vitamins. I'm assuming he's doing no exercise?

Welcome back! Weird question- anything you found enjoyable in jail? I sometimes think I’ll thrive in isolationism of sort. Obviously jail is not voluntary but curious how you manage to stay sane.

> I sometimes think I’ll thrive in isolationism of sort.

How did you find the Covid-19 lockdowns?

Re: Japanese game developer hasn't left the house in 10 years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn’t “NEET” mean “Not in education, employment, or training?”

It does, he'd still borderline fit that definition. He raised an average one year's salary for a game after ten years of self training.

Run-of-the-mill unemployed people that are outgoing fit the "NEET" definition better than him.

Also in Japan it seems the definition is a bit more broad than the acronym (otherwise even housewives would be NEETs): "In Japan, the classification comprises people aged between 15 and 34 who are not employed, not engaged in housework, not enrolled in school or work-related training, and not seeking work."

Self-training is definitely "work-related training". And he was doing housework.

Re: Japanese game developer hasn't left the house in 10 years

#87

Whenever I hear a bit about the hikikomori phenomenon in western news I'm always left wondering how they support themselves. Are these trust fund kids or something? If they're just living in mom's basement or whatever, that seems pretty selfish and pathetic. I guess this happens in the US also, but it's not something people talk about and we don't have a specific term for it.

It may seem selfish from the outside perspective, but there's always more than meets the eye: inability to cope with societal demands?, perhaps the internet has simply just given certain individuals greater capability to connect with ones own "special" interests/people?, hence the disinterest in the outside world: why bother with the "real-world", when all the things that you love about life itself are virtual?

Again, it's a peculiar mode of thinking if you aren't conditioned to it. If you've been the popular kid, smart, social, you've been handed most things to you, or people were always quick to help you, in whichever way. Some never had that.

And well, some just really like their alone time. And aren't we happy for the time that we live in, that such behavior is empowered for those people? If we disregard an active interest in the contribution of others to something, if X is happy, let's be happy for X.

Re: Japanese game developer hasn't left the house in 10 years

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> Per ITK, Nito only leaves his apartment to get a haircut and take out the trash, as well as any other activity that absolutely requires him to step outside of the comfort of his room. So actually: "Japanese Game Developer rarely leaves his house." I can see why they went with their own headline, though.

Also, it's an apartment, not a house. Also, not his apartment, his aunt's apartment. "Japanese Game Developer rarely leaves his aunt's apartment."

>"Japanese Game Developer rarely leaves his aunt's apartment."

sounds like the title of an onion article

Re: Japanese game developer hasn't left the house in 10 years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, it's an apartment, not a house. Also, not his apartment, his aunt's apartment. "Japanese Game Developer rarely leaves his aunt's apartment."

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Re: Japanese game developer hasn't left the house in 10 years

#90

It is a shame that the hikkomori is a trend and becoming popular with COVID.

I think the relevant question is “why are people dropping out of society in greater numbers than ever before? What changed?”

We reached the level of socio-technological development when a single person can happily live without a safety network, such as (extended) family or a community.

Why should one stay in the society, though? Was it ever intrinsically good? I mean slavery/serfdom, wars, racism, social inequality builtin in the culture multiplied by general narrow-mindedness. People love to ignore these inconveniences. The leader considered "the great" conquers the city and kills/rapes/enslaves everybody? Oh, that was normal. But now it's not, and it will never again repeat itself even on the smaller scale. Now society works perfectly. Yet fundamental physical constants and human biology remained the same. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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