I wish Intel's product could be more competitive, the M1 macbook looks like IPAD with a larger screen.
Intel claims new i9 is faster than M1 Max
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Re: Intel claims new i9 is faster than M1 Max
#82They're specifically talking about the mobile part here. But it's not hard to believe that it will outrun the M1 Max in multithreaded benchmarks, and likely even single-threaded benchmarks. Intel's latest desktop parts are already faster than an M1 Max by a not-insignificant amount, and this is just a lower-power version. Intel's Alder Lake desktop parts are already surprisingly power efficient (ignoring the heavily…
I agree, it's definitely not unbelievable that Intel can beat Apple under load. Especially as many workloads will be optimised for x86 (for now). Idle definitely seems to be Intel's Achilles heel, although I guess the e-cores will help once good OS support is there as Intel mobile chips seem to be pretty decent at saving power once they go into the lower c-states. I think a lot of the Apple efficiency gains also come…
they're reliant on OEMs to pretty much redesign their products around SoC design
U-class 13" and 14" laptops have been SoC-based for years.
Re: Intel claims new i9 is faster than M1 Max
#83Apart from what others already said (performance per watt) this PR fails to acknowledge that M1 also has a built-in Neural Engine cores for accelerating machine learning, which is going to become the main feature of many apps. Indeed, M1 is unique in the respect that you get CPU, GPU and ML cores in a single chip, with incredible performance and minimal power utilization.
I understand the performance and power pros, but I don't like Apple architecture, if one of CPU, GPU or ML fails you have to replace everything, even what's still working.
In fact I'm all in with Framework laptop, sadly they don't ship in Europe.
Re: Intel claims new i9 is faster than M1 Max
#84Apple has already won. Even if Intel catches up in efficiency, it doesn't matter. Even if they're 30% faster, it doesn't matter. Apple is in charge of their own destiny with Apple Silicon. That's invaluable.
"Even if they're 30% faster, it doesn't matter" of course it doesn't lol
Re: Intel claims new i9 is faster than M1 Max
#85Here is the claim: “Intel announces the 12th Gen Intel® Core™ family of mobile processors led by the launch of new H-series mobile processors featuring the flagship Intel® Core™ i9-12900HK – the fastest mobile processor ever [1]“ “[1] Based on superior performance of 12th Gen Intel Core i9 12900HK against Intel Core i9 11980HK, AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX, and Apple M1 Max. Intel processor performance is estimated based on me…
While I love C/C++, I thought the M1 family was specifically optimized for higher level languages?
That's kind of a myth and it's basically impossible to design a processor that runs high-level code faster than low-level code.
Re: Intel claims new i9 is faster than M1 Max
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am always within 1 minutes of a charger. My i9 MacBook still dies on me all the time. Get to 5% and go to the bathroom? Oops, it died, and I can’t join my next meeting on time. Start a call at 10% battery? Will definitely have to interrupt to go plug in. I want performance and battery.
I like my work M1 macbook air, but when battery gets below 10% it seems to get very unhappy... Requires sitting on the charger for a while before it will even start up properly
Interesting. I usually get still 30min-1h out of my M1 MBA on a 10% charge. It usually only hibernates a few minutes after hitting the 1% mark.
Re: Intel claims new i9 is faster than M1 Max
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Can you build an ARM computer of the components from Newegg?
Well that's a logical fallacy if ever I've seen one, but I'll humor you. Yes, you can. https://www.newegg.com/acer-cp513-1h-s60f/p/2S3-0008-003J5?I... https://www.newegg.com/p/1HD-005N-00048 https://www.newegg.com/nvidia-945-13541-0000-000/p/N82E16813... Etc.
Do they sell ARM processors and motherboards? Are there even standard sockets for them?
Re: Intel claims new i9 is faster than M1 Max
#88Re: Intel claims new i9 is faster than M1 Max
#89But Intel also said Rocket Lake is better than M1:
https://www.laptopmag.com/news/intels-benchmarks-show-advant...
> Intel claims that an 11th gen Core i7-1185G7 CPU can match or exceed the MacBook Pro M1’s processor in both native and non-native applications based on the benchmarks released. The company also says the 11th gen Core I7 will provide better battery life.
So can we assume the leap of M1 -> M1 Max is bigger than 11th i7 -> 12th i7, therefore Intel can only beat it with i9?
But it is a little strange since M1 Max has more CPU, GPU core and memory, and CPU design is almost the same. while Intel 12th core is a new design.
Re: Intel claims new i9 is faster than M1 Max
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well that's a logical fallacy if ever I've seen one, but I'll humor you. Yes, you can. https://www.newegg.com/acer-cp513-1h-s60f/p/2S3-0008-003J5?I... https://www.newegg.com/p/1HD-005N-00048 https://www.newegg.com/nvidia-945-13541-0000-000/p/N82E16813... Etc.
Do they sell ARM processors and motherboards? Are there even standard sockets for them?
This is starting to seem trollish. If you are incapable of addressing the original comment I wrote about x86's proprietary nature then these rhetorical questions don't add anything. If you are, then please let's hear it (not in the form of a vague rhetorical question but a coherent argument). That said I'll humor you once more.
> Do they sell ARM processors and motherboards?
Yes some of those boards are essentially motherboards with ARM processors on them.
> Are there even standard sockets for them?
Not that I know of for ARM chips. If by "standard" you mean Intel-proprietary or AMD-proprietary, then there is be no reason that an ARM vendor or ARM Ltd. itself could not define a socket specification. That's not a matter of openness or proprietariness of the platform.