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Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by lotsofpulp »

stkdump wrote: post #70
tptacek wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There has never been a better time to be a consumer of home media than today. I wouldn't trade the (legal) access I have to essentially any film or TV show I can imagine wanting to watch for any conceivable bookshelf full of DVDs. The Blockbuster Video and Comcast Premium Channel Package era was no more cost effective, and things just get worse as you go further back in time.

I used to live next to a DVD rental place that was 1€ per day. Often I would return the movie the same night. I used to watch 1-2 movies per month. Nowadays I have Netflix for what, 12€ a month? I still watch maybe one movie a month. So I guess I pay ~10x for not having to step outside?

You pay 10x for access to Netflix’s content.

The fact that you only want to watch 1 movie out of their catalog is irrelevant. I do not find their content worth it, so I do not pay Netflix.

I find it better to just rent a movie from an online provider if/when I want to watch one, since I rarely watch. If I want to watch it over and over, I buy it (kids’ movies).

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by stkdump »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #81
stkdump wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to live next to a DVD rental place that was 1€ per day. Often I would return the movie the same night. I used to watch 1-2 movies per month. Nowadays I have Netflix for what, 12€ a month? I still watch maybe one movie a month. So I guess I pay ~10x for not having to step outside?

You pay 10x for access to Netflix’s content. The fact that you only want to watch 1 movie out of their catalog is irrelevant. I do not find their content worth it, so I do not pay Netflix. I find it better to just rent a movie from an online provider if/when I want to watch one, since I rarely watch. If I want to watch it over and over, I buy it (kids’ movies).

So I pay for what I don't need to get the little that do I need. What you call irrelevant I call the core of their business model.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by [deleted] »

dghughes wrote: post #21
dmix wrote: post #10

I for one thank our piracy overlords who endlessly work to make every form of content (optionally) freely available in high quality. I pay for plenty of subscription services that finally figured out how to make content as easy and accessible as piracy but there will forever exist legitimate gaps where “just pay for it” is simply insufficient (geo being #1, silly copyright owners #2, etc etc). The other article menti…

Amazon and Apple lure you in but many shows it seems need to be rented or bought. How much disposable income do these companies think the average Joe has to spend? the answer seems to be $10 to $20 to rent or "buy" movies. Which you never own a physical copy of. They seem to be out of touch with reality.

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Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by lotsofpulp »

stkdump wrote: post #83
lotsofpulp wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You pay 10x for access to Netflix’s content. The fact that you only want to watch 1 movie out of their catalog is irrelevant. I do not find their content worth it, so I do not pay Netflix. I find it better to just rent a movie from an online provider if/when I want to watch one, since I rarely watch. If I want to watch it over and over, I buy it (kids’ movies).

So I pay for what I don't need to get the little that do I need. What you call irrelevant I call the core of their business model.

My point was that it is not productive to compare a la carte business models to all you can eat business models.

If you want to compare DVD rental to renting a movie on Apple/Google Play/Amazon, that would make more sense.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by Skunkleton »

dmix wrote: post #76
jzb wrote: post #69

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If they’re out of touch with reality, there will be a price adjustment or they’ll fail. Something tells me they’ve done the research to determine what the average person will pay. Looking at some newer films rentals are $4-$6 and “buying” $8-$15. Probably more for really new releases. $4 for a rental isn’t bad compared to renting a VHS or DVD at Blockbuster a few years ago. Compared to taking a few adults and kids to…

But why is rebutting a few days and not at least a week. Never made sense.

s/rebutting/renting?

Its a few days because you can rent digitally just before you buy it. Back in the Hollywood Video days, you also had to make a special trip to the video store. Often this was done days in advance.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by ramraj07 »

dmix wrote: post #25
dghughes wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon and Apple lure you in but many shows it seems need to be rented or bought. How much disposable income do these companies think the average Joe has to spend? the answer seems to be $10 to $20 to rent or "buy" movies. Which you never own a physical copy of. They seem to be out of touch with reality.

I stupidly “rented” a copy of Apollo 13 for $3.99 and being a long movie fell asleep halfway through. I came back to watch it a few days later and found the rental had “expired” in 2-3 days and was required to pay again to continue watching. Sometimes I think these people live in an alternate universe. last time I did that.

Pirate if you want (and can) but let’s not keep persisting the myth that these companies are being unreasonable. The average family paid 100 for cable and on top kept buying dvds for 10-20 a pop. These streamers are just trying to replicate that level of spending (and for the most part, failing).

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by Skunkleton »

IntelMiner wrote: post #52
vopi wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But services limit quality on Linux (due to not having a high-enough DRM level).

I remember when "The Grand Tour" premiered on Amazon Prime The quality was locked to an eye watering...360P! On Windows 10 with a modern HDCP compliant display and GPU no less! Is it still "piracy" if you pay for the service, but torrent the video in question in higher quality?

> Is it still "piracy" if you pay for the service, but torrent the video in question in higher quality?

Of course it is. Whenever you have these question, just ask what you think a mustache twirling characture of a villain would do and you will have your answer.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by kkirsche »

DennisP wrote: post #44

What is the CDM mentioned in this description? https://github.com/widevinedump/WV-AMZN-4K-RIPPER They mention you can email for the CDM and it's not free. Disney is the same.

Content Decryption Modules (CDM) are used to decrypt Encrypted Media Extensions (EME)

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by ramraj07 »

stkdump wrote: post #70
tptacek wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There has never been a better time to be a consumer of home media than today. I wouldn't trade the (legal) access I have to essentially any film or TV show I can imagine wanting to watch for any conceivable bookshelf full of DVDs. The Blockbuster Video and Comcast Premium Channel Package era was no more cost effective, and things just get worse as you go further back in time.

I used to live next to a DVD rental place that was 1€ per day. Often I would return the movie the same night. I used to watch 1-2 movies per month. Nowadays I have Netflix for what, 12€ a month? I still watch maybe one movie a month. So I guess I pay ~10x for not having to step outside?

So I suppose we should all move within walking distance to a rental place (that too a cheap one at that). Even back then it’s a pipe dream.
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