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Should you contribute open data to OpenStreetMap?

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Re: Should you contribute open data to OpenStreetMap?

#81

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> costs basically nothing to Microsoft I wouldn't be surprised if this agreement was a big headache when Microsoft is licensing imagery from various satellite imagery providers.

Well we have SpaceX now... and Microsoft is a trillion dollar company. Launch some satellites.

The highest quality aerial photography of my country (Denmark) is taken from planes, not satellites.

Re: Should you contribute open data to OpenStreetMap?

#83
post #8

I've enjoyed Google Maps for many years and never paid for it. Apple MapKit appears to be free. I improve the experience for others when I help improve the maps and in turn my experience is improved by the contributions of others. It's costs Google and Apple money to provide the infrastructure for this, which they obtain in various ways such as advertising. It doesn't bother me if someone wants to advertise their sto…

> I've enjoyed Google Maps for many years and never paid for it. You did pay for Google Maps indirectly as you were and still are a product Google sells to advertisers.

there is nothing like 'paying indirectly'.

did it overall cost them any money ? no

did it overall cost them any physical effort ? no

did google force them to use the service ? no

Does it really sting so much to admit Google Maps is a free to use service?

Re: Should you contribute open data to OpenStreetMap?

#84

no. I wish osm would adjust their licensing to prevent reuse of contributions to build non free (as in open) servicing.

It's the permissive vs. free software license debate. In practice there are people who won't be able to use the data for their use case if a non-permissive license is applied.

> In practice there are people who won't be able to use the data for their use case if a non-permissive license is applied

Well, of course. The whole point of a non-permissive license is to.... not permit things. It's frustrating to see people bring this out like some sort of gotcha. I use the AGPL because I think it's important that users have access to the source code the applications they interact with operate on. If people aren't okay with that, then they're completely welcome to not use my code.

(I am somewhat sympathetic to people who think that the GPL's definition of "Combined Work" is too broad—I've personally never viewed the inclusion of dependencies in a dynamic programming language with strong module boundaries like Node, Ruby or Python as creating a "Combined Work"—and I'd happily license my works with a theoretical LAGPL or an Affero-like Mozilla Public License if either of those were available. Unfortunately, the AGPL remains the only game in town for networked software.)

Re: Should you contribute open data to OpenStreetMap?

#85
post #80

I am against any large scale collection of data that can be used to take away an individual's privacy or to assist a government/business/person's ability to track someone's location or residence. Its one thing to not be able to do anything about a private business collecting this information on their own volition, but its another to actually aid in its collection yourself. The more you accept and buy into this realit…

Privacy ship has sailed long time ago. Try to remove license plates from your car. Or refuse to share information about your health!

Now it is about gate keeping. Young people and startups, need the same ability as govs and established players. Until recently you could not even embed maps on your website (too expensive). Free data are levelling the playing field.

And if anything OpenStreetMap helps me not to share my location. I can store map of entire continent offline on my phone, and do not have to ask remote servers for navigation!

Re: Should you contribute open data to OpenStreetMap?

#86
post #64

I struggle with contributing to open source but in a different context. In my opinion, the video games industry is information sparse on high quality software engineering practices, for whatever reason (NDAs, language/culture, etc). I am already authoring content that basically imports DevOps practices and experiences I have from my day job into a video games context. I believe practitioners have an edge over non-pra…

I have written some (obscure) open-source software and have contributed to open-source code-bases. I can say that if you are doing it for some kind of recognition, then you are doing it for the wrong reason. I _do_ think that you (and many others) would be worthy of recognition and appreciation, but most people are far too busy optimizing their careers and chasing the dollar to actually invest the time and effort nee…

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Re: Should you contribute open data to OpenStreetMap?

#87
This article is just factually wrong.

It alleges repeatedly that Facebook, Apple, Microsoft etc “employ nobody in the OSM community”. They do. Microsoft even employed the founder of OSM, Steve Coast, for a while.

If your criterion is ‘involved in OSM prior to current employment’, I could name a bunch of people currently working for Facebook, Amazon, Snap etc of whom that’s true. (One such person even stood for election to the OSM Foundation board this month.)

But, as others have pointed out, I’d hope we’re more welcoming than that. As far as I’m concerned, if you’re editing OSM you’re part of the community.

Re: Should you contribute open data to OpenStreetMap?

#88
The post claims both that some companies contribute to OSM and that they do not employ anyone from the OSM community.

There is some level of gatekeeping here, as the blog implies is that that employees at those companies are not part of the OSM community although they contribute to OSM.

With this attitude ("no true OSM contributor unless I approve of"), it is hard to grow the community by welcoming new people.

Re: Should you contribute open data to OpenStreetMap?

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well we have SpaceX now... and Microsoft is a trillion dollar company. Launch some satellites.

The highest quality aerial photography of my country (Denmark) is taken from planes, not satellites.

Same for Australia. NearMap is mostly plane (and hot air balloon) images for the high quality stuff.

Re: Should you contribute open data to OpenStreetMap?

#90
post #53

Could this be a good use case for cryptocurrency?

For which part? Main complaint in article is that major companies should employ people from OSM community. But inability to transfer money is not something blocking Microsoft or FB here.

The part where people contribute anonymously and receive compensation
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