I remember when web 2.0 became a thing it was more of a generic description of web design style and the advent of tech like ajax. Web 3 so far seems like astroturphed nonsense.
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#82Ah, yes, I remember this from web0: Trying to make web3 go away is just as pointless as trying to make web2 go away. It's here, it's going to stick around. Yes, there's a lot of hype, it probably won't look the same in 10 years, and yes there's a lot of charlatans, but I think ignoring its importance is myopic.
> It's here Can you post a link to a place where I can interact with some web3 content directly then? Not an article about what web3 will be, but something I can play with? Back in the early web 2.0 this is pretty easy, just point to twitter, myspace, stumble upon etc. I'm genuinely curious what web3 really even looks like since all the pages that talk about it mostly sound like marketing pitches without a single rea…
There was that website posted a few days back on non-fungible Olive Gardens and you could make unlimited breadstick tokens. If that’s not peak web3, I have no idea what on earth is.
Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works
#83Web 1.0: HTML Web 2.0: HTML + Javascript Web 3.0: HTML + Javascript + Ponzi. source: https://twitter.com/jeremiahg/status/1473768877377130505
There are real things happening in web 3.0, they are just being obscured by layers and layers of bullshit, scams and other fuckery. Once all that has crashed and everyone has lost all their money there will still be real and interesting tech remaining. Be very sceptical, but don't ignore the whole thing or you might end up missing the next real wave of innovation in tech (which is what i thought HN was about).
I think if you want to dispel the skepticism describing those real things would go a long way.
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#84Back in the day html was UPPERCASE
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#85It's funny that web3 is being sold as the decentralized web when that's what the internet architecture was literally designed for -- to survive an apocalyptic nuclear war. However, big players used their ability to purchase infrastructure and unforeseen flaws in the protocols to centralize much of the activity on the web. Lol if you think money can't do that to any decentralized architecture. One thing that would at…
I 100% agree. Imagine if self-hosting was taught in schools. Would Facebook and GMail be this big? I'm dreaming of an alternate universe where you read your friends microblogs through RSS, with the client and timeline algorithm of your choice. Everyone has his own mail server, with proper open-source spam filters. Open-source is a public service, receiving donations from governments. We were so close to this.
The spam problem is still pretty tricky, but this would be a good step. Owning the means of communication gives a lot of power to natural persons over corporate persons. Removing dealing with NAT and complications like that makes things a lot simpler even if it's not the be all and end all.
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#87just to be a bit picky - it technically has some CSS albeit in a style tag: ... is it now web1?
The viewport meta tag is also a post web0, almost web2 forced addition. I say forced in the sense that it’s required for proper rendering in mobile even for CSS-free sites.
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#88It's funny that web3 is being sold as the decentralized web when that's what the internet architecture was literally designed for -- to survive an apocalyptic nuclear war. However, big players used their ability to purchase infrastructure and unforeseen flaws in the protocols to centralize much of the activity on the web. Lol if you think money can't do that to any decentralized architecture. One thing that would at…
It’s interesting too because web3 repurposes existing internet and compute resources to build a more sophisticated network, similar to how phone networks were repurposed back in the early internet for connectivity.
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#89whats wrong with css
CSS and styling are immoral. Styling is used to manipulate readers. Content should stand on its own, anything that looks nice should be immediately met with skepticism. What are they trying to hide with their pretty background colors and hover styles? edit: also, can we talk about unneeded bloat? Those 5kb css files add up, how many tons are coal are burned every year because of all of those CSS files being downloade…
FYI, I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic
(Betting 60% yes, 40% no)
Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works
#90It's funny that web3 is being sold as the decentralized web when that's what the internet architecture was literally designed for -- to survive an apocalyptic nuclear war. However, big players used their ability to purchase infrastructure and unforeseen flaws in the protocols to centralize much of the activity on the web. Lol if you think money can't do that to any decentralized architecture. One thing that would at…
The web is fairly decentralized though. Google could go down and the web would still operate. Amazon could go down, and the web would still operate. Yes there's a few centralized components still such-as DNS, but even that is heavily cached and distributed in nature. Blockchain could aid in replacing BGP & DNS allowing for a better web. But web3 is just as centralized as our current web, if not more centralized. For…
Aws and cloudflare outages have taken down a significant portion of the web. No, the web isn't 100% centralized, but what percent is centralized to a small handful of players?