Coding while really high is difficult. Coding while a little buzzed is a wonderful experience. It's almost like an artificial flow state.
I experience it the same way.
Maybe it's CBD and almost no THC that enables being productive and creative
A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation
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#82> Furthermore, this cannabis usage is primarily motivated by a perceived enhancement to certain software development skills (such as brainstorming or getting into a programming zone) rather than medicinal reasons How can anyone who has tried it remotely believe this nonsense?
I’ve tried weed, got addicted to it in college and have seen many people do the same. It made me lazy, completely unmotivated and unproductive. All I did was watch Anime and eat unhealthy foods. Contrary to the notion that you can think about great ideas and brainstorming - it’s amazing when you’re high. Write down those ideas and think about them when sober - I quickly realized how foolish they were. Concentration a…
> I absolutely cannot believe this study
What do you not believe about the study? Did you read the study?
> In this paper, we presented results of the first empirical study of cannabis’s prevalence, perceptions, and usage motivations in programming environments
I don't think this study says "weed makes you better" or anything like that.
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#83Is "programmer" a coherent group? How much does a Senior Engineer doing something like writing kernel code have in common with a fresh high school grad writing on something like a single threaded ASP/PHP codebase for an internal tool that has fewer than 100 daily users? I've done both of those jobs, and they both involve the same set of general tasks (requirements, brainstorming, coding). But in actuality they have a…
> Is "programmer" a coherent group? Well, it's a profession, so yes. > They have almost nothing in common. They both write code all day. Professionally. I'm sorry for the snark. You might be able to make a case that this study doesn't take income into account but that's not the comment you're making here.
Programmer isn't a profession though.
It's missing things like licensing groups to limit the supply of labour. Similarly, while some programmers are highly educated, plenty are self taught or started working after a couple weeks of boot camp.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
During the day I just kind of loaf around, answer questions on slack, practice music, work out, etc. Late at night is the only time I can get any deep work done.
I am so glad to read this because I am just the same. Day time seems like there’s just too much other things to do, night time it’s quiet and dark and it feels cozy to sit at my desk, uninterrupted by slack messages or meetings and get long stretches of focus time.
I am double glad to read this. I am pretty much the same. I just cannot work when other people are around. I tend to end up helping them on some of their tasks and do my work when they all have left. The problem is that doing so gets work done , but you get a bit burny and your, if any, social life suffers.
I have since then, done the following, found a special zone/cabin and started to make a list when I go to this cabin. This has helped on tasks that I like to do (like designing and programming) but I still have to slog through other tasks (making presentations and writing pointless documents) in the late evenings.
The guide that helped me was this : https://adhdatwork.add.org/adhd-accommodation-guide/
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#85I thought that cannabis enhances the imagination, boosts the creativity and induces out of the box thinking up until I was late to a party. When I arrived, I was sober when everyone else was high and I couldn't bear the stupidity of those normally intelligent people. That's when I stop using the substance. I'm more inclined to believe that Ballmer Peak[0] is a real thing and I do get productive, motivated and creativ…
I can imagine it's a super different experience to be (probably very) high at a party, and to be a little stoned while working alone on a programming task. (Compare someone who's had 1 beer, and someone at a party doing shots in the kitchen :p) There's also the possibility that different people are affected differently, and maybe you just prefer alcohol to marijuana ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It could be, it's just that I'm yet to see someone fun and intelligent when Iim sober and they are high on cannabis(those who are high think that they are, of course). Slightly drunk people tend to be fun and maybe not exactly more intelligent than the sober but they tend to go out of their comfort zone which enables them to entertain ideas that they normally wouldn't do.
There are many stories about how people invent things when slightly drunk at the bar and write it down on a napkin.
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#86I got my three kids desks for christmas. Put them down to bed for the night and smoke a little weed. I was shocked how I couldn’t follow ikea desk instructions. Got frustrated and decided to try again sober. I was super shocked the next day how easy it was to follow when sober.
same. complex logical thinking is quite hard. but feeling is great. listening high to classical sound sometimes opens the story, the memory or the feelings the creator wanted to transport. for example. so, a day in remote-meetings can be quite nice high, a complex migration hardly.. €dit: could we pair our experiences with our "handed"-style? i'm strongly lefthanded. i have a theory, with left handeds the possibility…
I'm a daily consumer (and right handed FWIW) and while I can usually focus on decently complex tasks unless I'm really stoned I definitely notice an effect on like abstract/symbolic reasoning type stuff. I notice it with video games especially. I was playing a lot of Factorio earlier this year and there's some stuff great to do high, like drive around and clear area to expand your base, but other stuff like planning/designing blueprints is too much. I think anything where you've kind of decided what you're going to do and just need to go execute on it is nice but when you're doing stuff that's requiring active logical decision-making it's tough.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I took one for both of my corporate jobs, and that was over thirty years ago. Not new.
That’s a pretty old sample. The war on drugs was full throttle 30 years ago. Boomers were the millennials and the greatest generation had all the real power. Their straight laced policies were on everything. These days it’s 50/50 for me. Depending on how conservative the corp culture is. But I work in finance and could literally embezzle their money. I’m actually surprised when i don’t get drug tested.
The funny thing is, I worked for a defense contractor for my first job, and looked like Cousin Itt. They never drug tested me.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Is "programmer" a coherent group? Well, it's a profession, so yes. > They have almost nothing in common. They both write code all day. Professionally. I'm sorry for the snark. You might be able to make a case that this study doesn't take income into account but that's not the comment you're making here.
Programmer isn't a profession though. It's missing things like licensing groups to limit the supply of labour. Similarly, while some programmers are highly educated, plenty are self taught or started working after a couple weeks of boot camp.
What?!
What word would you prefer to use to refer to the group of people who get paid to program?
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#89I've vaped marijuana every night to sleep for the past 3 years or so... beats the pants off of any other insomnia med I've tried and it certainly takes the edge off of pandemic stress.
As a weird side-effect it occasionally makes me want to work more, because an idea will hit me as I'm high. 50% of the time it's actually a really good idea. The effects on creativity are so apparent, I never would have guessed before trying it.
I'm very diligent with not partaking during normal working hours though, my worst nightmare is having to debug something time-sensitive while high... it absolutely does not seem like a good time.
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#90I love smoking weed. I smoke pretty much every day. Just a little bit, a puff on the vape pen to get my groove going after work. I find it USELESS for problem solving or productivity, but hey: I don't need to be productive 24 hours a day. I just want something to take the edge off while I play a strategy game or fart around on a game prototype.
I NEVER do it during work or when I have to drive.
I started smoking weed when I was 16. I remember it was New Years day and the cool older kids from the nearby city took a liking to me and offered to smoke with me. We all got high, and it was extremely fun. Still friends with those people today. They all did quite well for themselves.
It was my rebellion growing up in a small town where there wasn't really much to rebel against. I had good parents and a good family. Little did I know my dad was also toking...
Then I went from my small town to the big city for college, and life got really hard. I didn't have the money to pay for weed anymore, and my mental health wasn't great due to all of the stress of college and work, so I stopped for around 6 years.
Then, about 3 years ago, I moved to a state where it as legal, and the first thing I did was buy some weed just to have the fun experience of purchasing it legally. And I smoked it. And I discovered something!
It wasn't just youthful rebellion, or following along with the cool kids, or anything like that. I actually really enjoy the feeling of being high! It makes me feel calm and relaxed.
And that is a good thing! Doing drugs is amoral[0]. There is this puritanical vein through US society that altering your state of mind, and making yourself feel good is a BAD thing. It even extends to coffee and caffeine sometimes.
But altering your state of mind is not inherently wrong! Clearly, it can sometimes be used as a crutch for avoiding other pain in your life. I am sure we have all seen it. But the same can be said of video games, and television, and even exercise when overdone. If it doesn't have any other effect on your life, doing a drug is fine.
- 0: Legal, not funding drug lords. I avoid illegal drugs for this reason.