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Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#82
post #45

4:35 AM PST We are investigating increased EC2 launched failures and networking connectivity issues for some instances in a single Availability Zone (USE1-AZ4) in the US-EAST-1 Region. Other Availability Zones within the US-EAST-1 Region are not affected by this issue. via https://stop.lying.cloud/

Can anyone explain the affiliation of stop.lying.cloud to Amazon? All of the legalese in the header/footer seem to indicate it's actually owned and run by Amazon. If so... why? Why not just... use the real status page? I mean I'm glad it exists, don't get me wrong. Just weird that they'd have two status pages, one seemingly existing only to sort of 'mock' themselves...

Corey Quinn (https://twitter.com/quinnypig) runs it.

He also has a decent newsletter and witty commentary, for all things AWS.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#83
post #13

Slack seems to have some issues because of that - I'm not sure if anyone is receiving messages, as it became completely silent for the last 15 minutes or so.

https://status.slack.com/2021-12/a17eae991fdc437d

> We are experiencing issues with file uploads, message editing, and other services. We're currently investigating the issue and will provide a status update once we have more information.

> Dec 22, 1:58 PM GMT+1

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#85
post #56

5ish years ago it was common knowledge that us-east-1 is generally the worst place to put anything that needs to be reliable. I guess this is still true?

us-east-1 seems to be AWS’s not so well kept little dark secret!

In all seriousness though - even non-regional AWS services seem to have ties to us-east-1 as evidenced by the recent outages. So you might be impacted even if it looks like (on paper at least) you’re not using any services tied to that region.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#86
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that is copyright infringement. You're not allowed to copy some work, modify it, then slap the original copyright on it. This is an illegal website, prone to being taken down by AWS. It's just strange.

Yes mate, Internet Police Officer Jeff Bezos has been dispatched and will take this illegal website down right away. (Using copyrighted material is permitted under fair use; this website is a parody. I’m not a lawyer but at some level preserving the copyright notice is probably better than claiming it as their own.)

This website is not a parody, and fair use does NOT permit you to retain the original copyright notice on the derived work.

You may say that the original work is copyright of the respective owners and that this is a parody work. But that's not what the site is doing. The footer contains the original, unaltered copyright, creating confusion as to who owns the derived work. Amazon does not own this, nor do they endorse it, so you're not allowed to say it's copyrighted by Amazon.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#87
post #45

4:35 AM PST We are investigating increased EC2 launched failures and networking connectivity issues for some instances in a single Availability Zone (USE1-AZ4) in the US-EAST-1 Region. Other Availability Zones within the US-EAST-1 Region are not affected by this issue. via https://stop.lying.cloud/

Can anyone explain the affiliation of stop.lying.cloud to Amazon? All of the legalese in the header/footer seem to indicate it's actually owned and run by Amazon. If so... why? Why not just... use the real status page? I mean I'm glad it exists, don't get me wrong. Just weird that they'd have two status pages, one seemingly existing only to sort of 'mock' themselves...

I think it was built[0] by @quinnypig

[0] https://twitter.com/quinnypig/status/1468331194471178241?s=2...

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#88
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that is copyright infringement. You're not allowed to copy some work, modify it, then slap the original copyright on it. This is an illegal website, prone to being taken down by AWS. It's just strange.

Yes mate, Internet Police Officer Jeff Bezos has been dispatched and will take this illegal website down right away. (Using copyrighted material is permitted under fair use; this website is a parody. I’m not a lawyer but at some level preserving the copyright notice is probably better than claiming it as their own.)

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Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#89

Honestly my server at home has more uptime than US-East-1

Does your server at home handle similar traffic to that of US-East-1 since you're comparing uptime?

Simiarly, my laptop, if I keep it plugged in the wall, and enable httpd on localhost, will surely have better uptime than any of the top clouds. I'd bet that it'd have 100% uptime if I plugged in a UPS and cared for traffic on my local network only.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#90
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that is copyright infringement. You're not allowed to copy some work, modify it, then slap the original copyright on it. This is an illegal website, prone to being taken down by AWS. It's just strange.

Satire is the loophole of Copyright. If you satire ANYTHING you can use their copyrights in the satire. One could safely and legally drive an entire nation's transportation industry thru that loophole.

No, fair use does NOT allow you to retain the original copyright. That would be passing off a derived work as the original copyright holder's work, which could be very damaging. This is a violation of fair use, if it could even be considered that to begin with.
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