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Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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Re: Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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gVim is hard; I just want to type ctrl-v to enter blockwise Visual mode. I normally use vim on the command line, but a lot of my coworkers use gVim on Windows. Whenever I try to help one of them out, I can't stand the fact that ctrl-v is remapped to paste by default. I recently found out how to make gVim sane again. In _vimrc, comment-out the following lines: behave mswin source $VIMRUNTIME/mswin.vim

On Windows, ctrl+q will get you the Visual Block selection.

EDIT: I think it also works on Linux... Sitting on my Windows box, at the moment, so I can't test it.

Re: Vim is hard, I just want to click around

#83

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horseshoes is hellbanned for this comment: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2928894 This is why I browse with dead comments enabled. A single particularly poor comment is a rather inaccurate indicator of future comment quality.

Certainly some moderation is appropriate for that comment, but I think a permanent invisiban is a bit of an overreaction to that. Does this kind of thing happen frequently?

With great frequency and very little forethought.

Re: Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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post #82
post #59

gVim is hard; I just want to type ctrl-v to enter blockwise Visual mode. I normally use vim on the command line, but a lot of my coworkers use gVim on Windows. Whenever I try to help one of them out, I can't stand the fact that ctrl-v is remapped to paste by default. I recently found out how to make gVim sane again. In _vimrc, comment-out the following lines: behave mswin source $VIMRUNTIME/mswin.vim

On Windows, ctrl+q will get you the Visual Block selection. EDIT: I think it also works on Linux... Sitting on my Windows box, at the moment, so I can't test it.

It does (both on Windows and Linux), but gVim still uses v and V for the other two Visual modes, rather than q and Q. It drives me nuts!

Re: Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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horseshoes is hellbanned for this comment: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2928894 This is why I browse with dead comments enabled. A single particularly poor comment is a rather inaccurate indicator of future comment quality.

Certainly some moderation is appropriate for that comment, but I think a permanent invisiban is a bit of an overreaction to that. Does this kind of thing happen frequently?

Yes, more so than you might think. Another showdead user.

Re: Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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Under Linux I always run vim in a terminal. Part of this is habit because I (in the past) often edit files on remote computers and I like the consistency. On my mac I end up using MacVim mostly so that my Vim and Terminal apps can be considered separate apps for the purpose of things like spaces, and it just seemed to integrate a little better with the Mac infrastructure. But in general I haven't found a reason to pr…

The reasons I run gvim rather than terminal vim are basically all because sufficiently capable terminals do not exist: - The excellent "solarized" colour scheme only works properly with 24-bit color unless you're willing to mess with the terminal palette and break all your other terminal apps. No terminal I know of supports 24-bit color. - I have a handy keybinding that cycles through open windows and tabs, I find it…

I'm using xterm with Solarized and it works pretty well. gvim is indistinguishable from vim in a terminal. I haven't observed any broken apps.

Re: Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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I've always been a little puzzled by people who use a file-drawer or file-list or similar addon with Vim, and I now I think I know why: I'm guessing most of these people have Vim open as their One Tool, much like another programmer might have Xcode or Visual Studio open as their One Tool, and they want to get everything done in it. At work, I usually have at least two windows open at all times: Vim full-screen on one…

Thanks that will help a lot(although I mostly use eclipse these days) but for smaller tasks having to reopen gvim with more files or opening new files can get annoying(also the lack of project/file groups checking).

Re: Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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I created a fork of janus that removes NERDTree from the distribution just for using it with alloy's fork. Also some other nice textmate behavior like quote/brace completion is included. So to get started immediately you can use it too, it is on github: https://github.com/JFrolich/janus

Re: Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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Agreed - this is pretty much the only reason MacVim lives on my machines. It handles huge files way better than anything else I've tried. I can use vim. I know it pretty well. But the inescapable fact is that, for me, it's clunky and requires more thinking than just using a mouse and pointing at something, then typing what I want to type. I use it because I haven't found something better (and I'm sure it exists, I ju…

It's only clunky when it isn't second nature. If you invest the time required to use it without thinking, you'll find it's quite elegant.

I can do thousands of other things with that time that are worth infinitely more to me.

As it happens, I do.

It's a text editor, not a religion.

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