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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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I find it highly entertaining that they talk about denying rights and then deny the whole of the EU access because they insist on violating their readers' privacy rights and that would be illegal in the EU.

They are complying with EU regulations in place to protect the right to privacy, I can respect it.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

#82

The brainwashing must be strong for students thousands of miles away from China in the middle of nowhere Indiana for them to feel the need to snitch on dissenters. Or, more likely, they were threatened before they left China that they would be watched while abroad.

Students, privileged ones at least, are still living in a fairly black and white life and have not seen that the world is many colours of truth. So defending one broad ideology is pretty easy for them, until they live a little longer and experience that we are more greys than hard edges.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

#83
Thanks.

Only for the record, the message I get from EU:

451: Unavailable due to legal reasons

We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact help@purdueexponent.org or call 765-743-1111.

Maybe it is just me, but the "therefore" is not consequential.

AFAIK, if you don't gather data, you don't have to protect them, GDPR or not.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

#84
This does kind of raise an interesting question. Where do you draw the line between disagreeing and harassing?

If a group follows around a student it seems like harassment, but if they follow around a politician it would likely be called a protest. What if the group was following a professor? Or the president of the university? It seems like it's a matter of how much power the person holds if it is a protest or not, but the line is still somewhat murky.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

#85
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compliance is easy : don't add the code that track users and you're compliant. If you do insist on tracking, make it opt out by default.

So, I have to disable logging on my servers to comply with your regulations? No thanks.

Are the logs permanent? If not then GDPR doesn't cover it. Can you use the logs to identify users and their behaviour? If not GDPR doesn't cover it.

If you keep permanent logs with information about users, then yeah that is a problem. But it should be a problem, that is a big potential security/privacy issue.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

#86
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you day they are violating readers' privacy rights? It's a not-for-profit student newspaper, they probably just don't want to risk GDPR fines. Or they don't expect readers from Europe.

Unless Purdue plans on opening a campus within the EU, they don't have to pay any of them. Not much of a risk, right?

I have not a deep knowledge of GDPR but wouldn't their study abroad / student exchanges programs with universities from Europe be considered like doing business in Europe?

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

#87
post #35
post #19

Please report any suspected collaborators with the Chinese secret police to the DEI campus safety board. All suspects will need to report to the DEI offices for re-education. Joking, but they literally do the exact same shit to Republicans.

I was a Republican. I was always pro choice. I was always skeptical of cops. I thought the Soviet Union and then the rump empire under Putin was dangerous. I never felt "oppressed" by standards of decency. Maybe it's not about being a Republican.

Your post supports with facts - ie. your own experience - the idea that moderate members of a group don't get oppressed, which is missing the point, in my opinion.

I think the point of the parent of your post and the article is that regardless of what you believe, you should have the right to your opinion and should not be persecuted for it.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

#88
post #8

I find it highly entertaining that they talk about denying rights and then deny the whole of the EU access because they insist on violating their readers' privacy rights and that would be illegal in the EU.

> because they insist on violating their readers' privacy rights and that would be illegal in the EU. Bad assumption. Maybe an unpopular fact, but many sites simply block EU access to avoid potential legal pitfalls of navigating foreign laws. Getting the site compliant would require review from legal teams and work from (likely contracted) web developers, which is almost certainly not in the budget for a side site li…

This is a completely backwards way of looking at it. If you don't have the budget, create a static website and throw it behind github pages or s3 or whatever. An entire university with a school of computer science cannot figure out some standard way of doing this ?

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

#90
post #79

Excellent. Supporting free thought and expression is exactly what universities are supposed to do. I don't feel they've always done so sufficiently in recent years, but it's great to see them taking a stand here.

That's an easy stand to take. It would be more interesting to see what stand would they take on more controversial subjects that also support free thought and expression.

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