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To reduce student suicides by hanging to fans, institute in India removes fans

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Re: To reduce student suicides by hanging to fans, institute in India removes fans

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Thi will never cure the underlying cause of suicides, of course, but adding even slight obstacles has proven to have an effect on suicide rates. Many suicides aren't thoughtfully planned out, but are just a combination of motive and easy opportunity. Even adding something as seemingly silly as a moderately difficult to climb fence to a bridge can reduce suicide rates. This is a fine measure, assuming that it's follow…

This may be true, however after living in the tropics for many years I can attest that if you're unable to afford Air conditioning, someone taking your fan away would be enough to send even the happiest person over the edge.

Re: To reduce student suicides by hanging to fans, institute in India removes fans

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post #81
post #7

Thi will never cure the underlying cause of suicides, of course, but adding even slight obstacles has proven to have an effect on suicide rates. Many suicides aren't thoughtfully planned out, but are just a combination of motive and easy opportunity. Even adding something as seemingly silly as a moderately difficult to climb fence to a bridge can reduce suicide rates. This is a fine measure, assuming that it's follow…

This may be true, however after living in the tropics for many years I can attest that if you're unable to afford Air conditioning, someone taking your fan away would be enough to send even the happiest person over the edge.

Which is why they are replacing the ceiling fans with wall mounted fans (it's explained in the article)

Re: To reduce student suicides by hanging to fans, institute in India removes fans

#87
"These anti-suicide fans might be the answer to a crisis in Kota" - https://www.deccanchronicle.com/lifestyle/viral-and-trending...

~2% of suicides in India are from fans. You probably go higher looking at just the cities. "Ligature material in hanging deaths: The neglected area in forensic examination" - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2090536X1...

> institute in India removes fans

The current title is pretty clickbait, they are changing from ceiling fans to wall mounted fans. Not removing all fans. Suicide by ceiling fans is an acknowledged problem. This prison is developing anti-suicide fan tech as well - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-17/ceiling-fans-removed-...

In the ultimate irony, covid which is causing this is better protected against with ceiling fans than wall mounted fans.

Re: To reduce student suicides by hanging to fans, institute in India removes fans

#88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suicide isn't logical or rational. It's almost always the result of a temporary state of mind, therefor it matters how accessible the means of ending one's life is. Easy and instant access to firearms for example leads to way more successful (and even just attempted) suicides because it takes less time to take out a gun and shoot than virtually anything else.

> Suicide isn't logical or rational. This is bullshit. It may or may not be depending on individual conditions. If someone knows that they will suffer significatly for the rest of their lives, then it's entirely logical ans rational for them to end their life. It would be irrational to continue living if the cons were guaranteed (or even had a high likelyhood) to outweigh the pros.

It’s impossible to understand the future with 100% certainty, ergo illogical.

Re: To reduce student suicides by hanging to fans, institute in India removes fans

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Why take down the fans? It’s survival of the fittest! /sarc Humanity is fine with creating unneeded suffering in others but we will alway draw the line at ending human suffering.

It is the same with the homeless. Society is fine with us living on the street but will give you immediate housing if you want to end your suffering by suicide.

So, we could restructure education and society in a way that would eliminate suffering.

Does anyone want to talk about that?

Re: To reduce student suicides by hanging to fans, institute in India removes fans

#90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Suicide isn't logical or rational. This is bullshit. It may or may not be depending on individual conditions. If someone knows that they will suffer significatly for the rest of their lives, then it's entirely logical ans rational for them to end their life. It would be irrational to continue living if the cons were guaranteed (or even had a high likelyhood) to outweigh the pros.

It’s impossible to understand the future with 100% certainty, ergo illogical.

This isn't even true in anything but a irrelevantly literal way, first of all. There are incurable diseases which can cause massive suffering. It would be irrational to live with one when consensus is that a cure won't be remotely on the horizon for one's lifetime. Sure, something could come up unexpectedly but you could also win the lotto too and it's irrational to play that. Second of all, your argument invalidates all decision making and planning, so is really a reductio ad absurdum for itself.
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