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Same here. And as always, AWS status page [0] is completely green and useless. [0] https://status.aws.amazon.com/
Because everything works fine? So a landing page does not work you need to put defcon 3?
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Gotta love how polite standard business Japanese is. It's no wonder they named their moon probe after this national treasure of a philosophy.
I don't follow. It seems like an almost exact translation to all the other languages for this error page.
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#84Seriously, those commenting “oh boy! Time to rethink this whole cloud thing!” You’re either so new to this stuff to have no experience to remember the days before cloud, you’re trolling because you’re high on nostalgia remembering the good ol’ days (perhaps with some “member berries” https://youtu.be/mPs8-ZBSjok), or you’ve just straight up forgotten what it takes to build and run your own infra from the ground up.
And to those who happen across this comment before posting your own: please contribute something to the discussion beyond the above. Thanks.
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#85I think this adds some momentum to the pendulum swinging back the other way. Maybe cloud teams can patch your services better than your in-house team can (See 2 critical issues in Azure the last 3 months, _caused_ by MS itself). Maybe the cloud has a higher uptime than your on-premise infrastructure (see the AWS, Azure outages). Make sure to compare the actual outage time v.s. the stats doctored by various political…
Even if you can manage more uptime on your own than through the cloud (which I doubt), being on the cloud means downtime is correlated with downtime of other services. That's usually a good thing. Your customers will be more understanding if your outage is part if a wider outage that makes national news. Any services you integrate with are likely down too. If two services with 99% uncorrelated uptime together drops t…
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I think also just finally getting to the point where they have a tech debt burden comparable to everyone else. Starting fresh has its advantages...for a while.
Even on HN there are some former AWS employees who talk about how its all stitched together and flying on a wing a prayer. Apparently the on-call is just a traumatizing experience. It will take real damage to revenue for the management to pay that debt off.
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#87It seems like AWS and Google have had more outages than normal recently. I guess this is to do with COVID disruptions? (remote working and such).
This morning I’d bet more on a rushed log4j patch. They use it heavily.
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#88I think this adds some momentum to the pendulum swinging back the other way. Maybe cloud teams can patch your services better than your in-house team can (See 2 critical issues in Azure the last 3 months, _caused_ by MS itself). Maybe the cloud has a higher uptime than your on-premise infrastructure (see the AWS, Azure outages). Make sure to compare the actual outage time v.s. the stats doctored by various political…
These outages have almost zero impact on anyone deciding to use a cloud provider.
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#89I think this adds some momentum to the pendulum swinging back the other way. Maybe cloud teams can patch your services better than your in-house team can (See 2 critical issues in Azure the last 3 months, _caused_ by MS itself). Maybe the cloud has a higher uptime than your on-premise infrastructure (see the AWS, Azure outages). Make sure to compare the actual outage time v.s. the stats doctored by various political…
Even if you can manage more uptime on your own than through the cloud (which I doubt), being on the cloud means downtime is correlated with downtime of other services. That's usually a good thing. Your customers will be more understanding if your outage is part if a wider outage that makes national news. Any services you integrate with are likely down too. If two services with 99% uncorrelated uptime together drops t…
Getting higher uptime is super easy for smallish inhouse deployments.
You just don't install any updates and let the server run, trusting your VPN to shield you from possible security issues.
The maintenance burden is the reason why people often prefer the cloud services, not the uptime. Because maintaining the instance with updates, reading all patch notes and steps for migration, keep every health metric monitored and respond quickly on issues without getting stuck googling for possible reasons is quite a bit of work and quickly forces you to employ n+1 people.
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#90${jndi:ldap://AWS Down}?
Amazon uses a lot of Java, so the two stories might be actually connected somehow.