Assange judge is 40-year ‘good friend’ of minister who orchestrated his arrest

Post by sildur » Sat, Dec 11, 2021, 5:32 PM UTC

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Main stream media are the media who used Assange's stories when it became clear they couldn't ignore them; then helped to smear him while ignoring his torture and a long list of disproportionate and illegal actions against him. You can call them scumbag media, billionaire media, or tool of the warmongers media; but pre-judging people who use the term "main stream media" means you have chosen the side of the opulent o…

"main stream media" is also a radical right calling card. There are nothing good that comes out of using MSM and assorted catch phrases. Big fan of Chomsky, but his usage of the term mainstream media is not what that term has been co-opted to mean by some of the various forces he has, and is, warning us about.

Mainstream media was a thing way before it being co-opted by the far-right. And I really dislike the idea of having to update my vocabulary because a pack of morons decided to abuse the term.

Post by DyslexicAtheist » Sat, Dec 11, 2021, 9:11 PM UTC

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If you grew up in the hacker-scene of the late 80ies early 90ies it might be easier to empathize with him than what is possible just reading the US/UK/SE documents claiming he is a rapey person that enjoys torturing cats. I don't think he is either a hero nor a villain, but has the classic mentality of the hacker-scene (both useful but also highly toxic). Broken people (aren't we all?) who try to be larger-than-life…

> All of the wannabe independent citizen journalists who are successful must be backed by the intelligence community in the country they operate. You are describing fascism here. This is a scary rhetoric that attaches reporting responsibility to the authorities which they are meant to keep in check. There must be another way.

I am describing how it works today, not how I wish it to be. Assange made mistakes but he should not have disappeared into the UK prison system because a corrupt banana republic (Ecuador) elected a new leader. Austria should not have forced landing of a plane with Evo Morales onboard just to hunt Assange, yet Austria did. No country will protect you (he was not offered asylum in or other "democracies"). The left wing media (Guardian & Co) failed to support him.

No matter which country you look at if you intend to upset their power structure (or the structure of a powerful ally that you want to appease), you will not have rights. Even more so when you're not a citizen of that country.

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