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Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Don't forget rabid useragent sniffing to send browsers the "good pages": http://webaim.org/blog/user-agent-string-history/ this probably started in 1997-or 1998 or so, and probably had its apex in the mid 2000s especially with the hegemony of IE5.

And now today CloudFlare serves you a captcha if they don't like your user-agent and IP address combo.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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One thing a miss: a simple, easy to use, wysiwyg html editor. Also, these days it also would have to be open source. So, my only options look like bluegriffon, whose license/monetization I don't like, or Mozilla Composer (actually seamonkey), which seems basically abandoned in terms of features and maintenance seem to only make it compile and run on modern system. Some people may suggest a CMS, but I don't want a CMS…

The problem with wysiwyg is that I think CSS makes it hard to make these things.

Those editors always seemed to make the kludgiest CSS because the CSS 'cascade' makes it hard to create drag and drop components.

Any one more knowledgeable can correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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One thing a miss: a simple, easy to use, wysiwyg html editor. Also, these days it also would have to be open source. So, my only options look like bluegriffon, whose license/monetization I don't like, or Mozilla Composer (actually seamonkey), which seems basically abandoned in terms of features and maintenance seem to only make it compile and run on modern system. Some people may suggest a CMS, but I don't want a CMS…

Something like Hugo, I guess, though it's not WYSIWYG. But I don't think a WYSIWYG editor would cope with today's websites too well.

Back in the day everyone viewed your website on a desktop computer, in something around 1024x768 resolution, and if you designed for that then you were fine for most readers. Now, most people will be viewing it on a mobile device, with twice the resolution than it actually appears, and a huge range of possible aspect ratios. There's no WYSIWYG tool that can handle this easily.

Fortunately, there are lots of really simple ways to host your personal page now. From Github/lab pages, to Cloudflare pages, to AWS S3 buckets, there's a huge range of hosting options.

I've used Hugo via Gitlab pages, and it worked really well. Especially because free (as in beer).

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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post #76

I would add: - messing with the mouse pointer (and adding animated graphics following it), - changing the whole browser’s window’s “chrome” to custom graphics (as in: custom minimize/maximize/close buttons and the edge graphics of the floating window) - Maybe throwing full-screen to maximize the impact.

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Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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They have missed out Perl CGI scripts from “Matts Script Archive”[0]! I remember much difficulty as a 13YO trying to get his “guest book” Perl script to work for the first time (with all its famous security holes). Oh, and “CGI Proxy”! Hosting that somewhere on a personal site so that we could get passed the filter on the schools internet. Anyone who knew how to host that had great power in the IT rooms! Edit: wow cg…

> Matts Script Archive

Such great memories! I was also fond of wwwboard and used it to create my first community in 1997 for the original Diablo game, right before I discovered pirating software and downloaded UltimateBB.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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The awesome thing about that period was how we learned. You'd be on a web page, see something funky (positioning, rounded corners, etc) and be like "how the heck did they do that?". Then you do the ol' "View Source" and now that technique is in your toolkit. In fact you'd prob head right over to your geocities site and try it out right away.

Yeah this was awesome time and it did teach you more than just the trick, navigating unknown codebases, extracting the meaningful parts of a non trivial piece in f code…

I really think the web community lost something with the transition to compiled uglified js and css…. Sure google will show you to some code if you manage to put what you are looking for into words but that isn’t always easy. Pitty that there is no standardised solution to publish the source along with the Minimized script nowadays.

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