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Re: Power Fx: open-source now available

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Yes, they are not completely random, but users may perceive them as such. Technically, nothing on computer is truly random. Non-technical users don't configure active hours usually. Many are not even aware of this feature. I'm not sure I would call a feature that can (and does) cause data loss, when user doesn't follow minor update schedule, only inconvenient. The three cases I mentioned, none were using Home edition…

Sigh. You are contradicting yourself a little here. > Non-technical users don't configure active hours usually. Many are not even aware of this feature. Ok. Fair enough, but then don't end with this: > maybe Windows is not intended for professionals any more. Just home users and gamers. All the anecdotes you provides lack crucial details, such as was the system prompting for restarting after updates, how were updates…

> All the anecdotes you provides lack crucial details

I don't know all the details and I agree that they could have prevented it, if they had known how to do it. The point of these anecdotes was to show that there seems to be a serious issue with the design of this feature to cause problems this frequently.

Issues IMO are:

- default setting to restart when user is logged in and has applications opened is kind of hostile towards the user as it can lead to data loss (updates are important, but not more important than user's data)

- there is no way to configure this in the Settings app (nor is there any information in Windows Update settings that informs the user about this)

- setting is buried inside group policies. It's hard to find the correct setting without instructions. (and there are a lot of bad instructions online regarding this)

- all things considered, this feels like a dark pattern.

> If you're using the Professional Edition and are worried about data loss because of update-related reboots, configure a proper update schedule and group policies - that's what the Professional edition is for.

Configuration has reset for me once after a feature update. It might have been due to a bug, I'm not sure. Anyway, it happened long ago, under Win 8 Pro I think. Not really relevant anymore.

> Windows has a feature that allows apps to auto-reopen and restore their state after a reboot. The fact that most software doesn't support this is not the fault of the OS either.

The fact that it proceeds with a restart even, if not all running applications support this feature, is the fault of the OS. It's a good feature and hopefully it will gain more support in the future.

Re: Power Fx: open-source now available

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My non tech users are still catching up with Power Query. I sort of gave up forwarding news related to low code from MS, as every week there's something changing or being deprecated. Moreover, every time I tried to use anything related to the Power Platform (so I could teach to others) I ended up in a world of pain. Is anyone actually using Power Apps, etc... Successfully?

May I suggest your non-tech users to try EasyMorph[1] (I'm the founder)? It's easier than PowerQuery (it's completely no-code) and at the same time more powerful. 80% of PowerQuery capabilities require coding. Our tool is 100% visual (and has a free edition). [1] https://easymorph.com

I am really curious: How does this compare to Knime (quite popular in EU). I have onboarded a couple finance departments and I agree with you that the flow approach is easier for the teams.

Re: Power Fx: open-source now available

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post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sigh. You are contradicting yourself a little here. > Non-technical users don't configure active hours usually. Many are not even aware of this feature. Ok. Fair enough, but then don't end with this: > maybe Windows is not intended for professionals any more. Just home users and gamers. All the anecdotes you provides lack crucial details, such as was the system prompting for restarting after updates, how were updates…

> All the anecdotes you provides lack crucial details I don't know all the details and I agree that they could have prevented it, if they had known how to do it. The point of these anecdotes was to show that there seems to be a serious issue with the design of this feature to cause problems this frequently. Issues IMO are: - default setting to restart when user is logged in and has applications opened is kind of host…

I completely agree with your issues regarding the settings, lack of discoverability. The whole configuration system of Windows is a mess and needs to be replaced.

Windows updates in general are a convoluted mess that breaks things regularly in unexpected ways (e.g. an update broke Visual Studio's profiler for over a year).

I only don't agree that unexpected restarts are a common occurrence these days, I'm with you w.r.t all other complaints.

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