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Re: Databricks response to Snowflake's accusation of lacking integrity

#81

Ive been following this and it’s kind of embarrassing to watch. I love working with Databricks and Snowflake. They both knock it out of the park for their respective use case. They’re amazing products. It makes no sense to fall out about this though. For a 100TB dataset with a funky calculation, Spark will trounce Snowflake. For a 1 row dataset, Snowflake will return before the spark job has been serialised.

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Re: Databricks response to Snowflake's accusation of lacking integrity

#82
post #43

What I find hilarious is that companies argue who can query 100 TB faster and try to sell this to people. I've been on the receiving end of offers by both of the companies in question and used both platforms (and sadly migrated some data jobs to them). While they can crunch large datasets, they are laughably slow for the datasets most people have. So while I did propose we use these solutions for our big-ish data pro…

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Re: Databricks response to Snowflake's accusation of lacking integrity

#83
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maybe clickhouse?

Clickhouse is good if you're building application. It has lot of great features and incredible performance, but there's an expectancy that people using it know what they're doing and can work around its limitations (like limited support for joins and sql in general). Something like Snowflake works much better when you're building a platform that you can give to two hundred data analysts or various skills spread over…

If you want Python, ML and SQL to be easily usable together on the same data nothing can touch Databricks.

Re: Databricks response to Snowflake's accusation of lacking integrity

#84

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Do you work for Databricks?

They must do. But if you've been in this area for long enough, I'd put my money on Databricks, if anything, because of their open source integrity

Databricks isn't open source, as they keep hold of all the IP that makes it much better than OS Spark. Whether you buy Snowflake or Databricks, you're buying proprietary software.

Re: Databricks response to Snowflake's accusation of lacking integrity

#86
Snowflake accuses other companies of lacking integrity?

I really wish I could block all of Snowflake's domain from my inbox. Sadly, Google encourages spammers to just create a new email address. So I get a few emails each month from Snowflake who ask me to try their products. I've never done business with them and there's no unsubscribe link.

Fuck Snowflake for thinking it has any room to talk about integrity.

Re: Databricks response to Snowflake's accusation of lacking integrity

#87
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Databricks is a shit platform that encourages terrible data practices and accretion of technical debt.

Seems pretty good to us! Can you give more information?

As people noted elsewhere, you have to be VERY careful with using databricks for a full data warehouse due to the fact that it drives you to notebook driven development and scheduling of those notebooks when data pipelines should follow similar development practices as other software projects.

Great for proof of concepts, but when you start to build out complete pipelines please look into how to make the pipelines more sustainable and maintainable.

Re: Databricks response to Snowflake's accusation of lacking integrity

#88
post #40

so, alternatives? Aside from the Azure/GCP/AWS internal offeringa I know about Snowflake and Firebolt, Databricks is new to me.

Redshift is pretty terrible, stay away. AWS is even worse at delivering promises than Databricks and that's saying something. I heard Google BigQuery is good. It is completely SaaS (like AWS Athena that works). Unicorns often run their own stack and you could replicate that, if you have the apetite. Netflix and Apple run Trino + Spark on k8s + Iceberg. Uber used their own Hudi thing, not sure if they still do.

Apple is a big Deltalake (and Databricks) customer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFeBJxI4Q98

Re: Databricks response to Snowflake's accusation of lacking integrity

#89
post #43

What I find hilarious is that companies argue who can query 100 TB faster and try to sell this to people. I've been on the receiving end of offers by both of the companies in question and used both platforms (and sadly migrated some data jobs to them). While they can crunch large datasets, they are laughably slow for the datasets most people have. So while I did propose we use these solutions for our big-ish data pro…

its my experience if its just 10s of GBs then use 'normal' solutions. if TB then spark is great for that. note I have only used DataBricks & Spark, no snowflake.
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