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Re: Return YouTube dislike count

#81

Post by LegitShady »

xet7 wrote: post #79
LegitShady wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why don't you make that feature? Is the feature integral to the purpose? Would a normal person assume an app that supposedly solved your problem has that feature? Its not straightforward if your app doesn't deserve low reviews or not.

I'm not yet sure adding that feature be possible, how complex it would be to add it, or would it cause security issues or other problems. There is already easy workaround to have that kind of feature already.

and is that communicated in the description of the app?

Re: Return YouTube dislike count

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Post by password4321 »

dotancohen wrote: post #69

> You can still dislike videos to further personalize and tune your recommendations. 2016 Dislike button: Feature to inform other users that a video is not worth watching. 2021 Dislike button: Feature to inform google to show _you_ other content. Google is hijacking user interface concepts to slowly train users to train the machine about how to train them.

I think this is the key point: the signal is valuable enough for Google to keep it to themselves. Similar to the work done to hide referrer when clicking through searches (of course there's a good reason!).

Re: Return YouTube dislike count

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Post by azth »

LegitShady wrote: post #59
azth wrote: post #2

Hopefully the community will come together and figure out a good solution for the mess that YT is creating.

I think it's as simple as commenting "dislike" on the video instead. It will fill the comments with negative responses that are easily recognized, and while you don't get counts it won't be hard to tell if a video has a lot of dislikes. It would be better to get a count and ratio of like to dislikes but Google doesn't want that so comments it is. The other option is an off-site like/dislike page that is hosted off of…

The problem is that some videos disable comments (e.g. see the white house videos), or the video owners will simply delete those comments.

Re: Return YouTube dislike count

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Post by LegitShady »

shadowgovt wrote: post #73
twa999 wrote: post #36

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there will be code or even memes, not an easy task. twitch still has problems with that, kids will always find a way around that

Definitely. I look forward to the measure / counter-measure fight. ... but this is the same company that currently owns the top-tier solution for ad spam and ad fraud; I expect them to be slightly harder to defeat than Twitch.

I see comment spam in every major youtube video I see. As long as its not a top level comment, it doesn't seem to stop any spam at all.

Whatever their spam product is they're either not using it in youtube, or it doesn't work.

Re: Return YouTube dislike count

#85

Post by [deleted] »

rektide wrote: post #58
azth wrote: post #2

Hopefully the community will come together and figure out a good solution for the mess that YT is creating.

> Hopefully the community will come together and figure out a good solution for the mess that YT is creating. If youtube won't host the information, it becomes a search problem: who has voted on this link? How have they voted? Certainly the easiest path would be to create a new centralized site that hosts all these votes. Then create an extension to add these downvotes back in. Ideally you'd probably want to also hav…

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Re: Return YouTube dislike count

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Post by scohesc »

They're removing dislikes because of a multitude of reasons, from my own thought.

1. Movie companies don't like releasing trailers and seeing their dislike numbers reaching orbit.

2. The current US administration doesn't like the vast number of dislikes on their videos compared to likes.

3. Advertising agencies don't want their ads related to videos that have high numbers of dislikes, so google is finding "middle ground" and only making the counts visible to the creator so advertisers have less to complain about.

4. People get their feelings hurt when they put a lot of work into a video, only for it to immediately get disliked or "brigaded" by people.

I think the whole fear of "people might dislike-brigade videos" is really only a concern for any online "celebrities" who upset their fans, and for large companies who for some reason think like/dislike ratios are any indication of actual opinion.

Possible solutions other than removing dislikes: - Youtube doesn't count a "view" unless some criteria are met - I assume watch-time is one of those. Just do the same with dislikes/likes. That will immediately get rid of the vast majority of spam up/downlikes. (Sidenote: if they don't have any current criteria for what constitutes a "real" like or dislike, that's on them lmao)

- Leave it up to the creator to show or hide likes/dislikes.

- Leave it up to the advertiser. If they don't want like/dislike counts to be shown on their videos, they get less ad revenue (which will never work, because Google likes money)

I'm not sure what the solution is, but I guess since Youtube "is a private company and can do what they want!" they'll just keep forcing up and coming competitors out of the industry through predatory practices and maintain their top status as a video upload platform.

Re: Return YouTube dislike count

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Post by xet7 »

LegitShady wrote: post #81
xet7 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not yet sure adding that feature be possible, how complex it would be to add it, or would it cause security issues or other problems. There is already easy workaround to have that kind of feature already.

and is that communicated in the description of the app?

Yes, it's in description of app.

Re: Return YouTube dislike count

#88

Post by disantlor »

andrew_ wrote: post #25
disantlor wrote: post #4

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ive used youtube daily for years and never once looked at or clicked the dislike button (or the like button). seems to work fine for me

I use it prolifically to mark videos that are hard to watch or lack the content they claim they contain. I consider it a noble service to my peers.

fair but id assume the algorithm prioritizes watch time anyway. people might dislike a video but then watch it anyway… guessing youtube is going to opt to keep showing the video.

Re: Return YouTube dislike count

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Post by LegitShady »

azth wrote: post #83
LegitShady wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's as simple as commenting "dislike" on the video instead. It will fill the comments with negative responses that are easily recognized, and while you don't get counts it won't be hard to tell if a video has a lot of dislikes. It would be better to get a count and ratio of like to dislikes but Google doesn't want that so comments it is. The other option is an off-site like/dislike page that is hosted off of…

The problem is that some videos disable comments (e.g. see the white house videos), or the video owners will simply delete those comments.

In general when I see no comments on a video I know the video is garbage, so that helps on its own.

Re: Return YouTube dislike count

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Post by LegitShady »

xet7 wrote: post #87
LegitShady wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and is that communicated in the description of the app?

Yes, it's in description of app.

it sounds like a major communication issue, where users are expecting something you don't offer, or that the competition does and thus they expect you to offer it too.
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