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Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Post by kwertyoowiyop »

varjag wrote: post #63
lordnacho wrote: post #32

I would guess people evaluate their job on money/work/stink axes. All of FAANG pays well, so what's left is whether the work is interesting/important/fulfilling and whether the company has integrity/evil issues. Eg you might think F1 has interesting problems despite glorifying fossil fuel cars, or you might think drones are technically challenging despite being used to kill people. Loads of people become nurses and t…

I assume they genuinely struggle with recruiting. Getting cold recruiting mails from FB lately despite being on the wrong continent. They must be scraping the bottom.

They finally called me. So yep, bottom of the barrel.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Post by civilized »

achenatx wrote: post #65
civilized wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google keeps a large suite of in-house built, enormously useful products alive and still manages to move them forward incrementally. FB has done nothing useful for me since I signed up in 2004. Given that, why would I care if they made a video about the incredible things they will do in the future? If I'm to believe they will deliver, shouldn't they have a track record by now? And Google has led in AI for the past de…

facebook groups and marketplace are huge. Marketplace will be the craigslist killer if they can fix their scammer problems. Groups compete well with reddit. As they build a 'metaverse' groups, marketplace, and walls can form the foundation you wall is your own personal space. Your groups and the marketplace become places that you go to.

I respect that hypothesis. They've got their bite of the market with those products.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Post by bogwog »

perdid0 wrote: post #71

> Out of more than 1,100 votes, the person was urged to take the Netflix job, where he said he was being offered $580,000 a year. Are these real salaries? How??

580k per year is reasonable considering the value that one engineer can provide to a company that large.

also, I’ve heard that Netflix salaries in particular are higher than most other tech giants because they don’t offer any other benefits.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Post by mrbowow »

lordnacho wrote: post #32

I would guess people evaluate their job on money/work/stink axes. All of FAANG pays well, so what's left is whether the work is interesting/important/fulfilling and whether the company has integrity/evil issues. Eg you might think F1 has interesting problems despite glorifying fossil fuel cars, or you might think drones are technically challenging despite being used to kill people. Loads of people become nurses and t…

I accepted a diff offer because of rumors about not so great WLB.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Post by svachalek »

civilized wrote: post #43
JKCalhoun wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> forward-thinking younger talent can be the crucial difference Are engineers really the ones driving at the company? I think that has not been true in "the industry" for a decade now. Marketing, upper-management are the ones steering the ships now — engineers just row.

Maybe that's why Google has made a few dozen amazing things while FB has made basically one thing and acquired the rest. A culture that respects engineering leadership.

It's hard to think of something amazing from Google that they didn't acquire other than the search engine. Maps, YouTube, Android were all acquisitions. Most Google internal projects are future entries in the "Google graveyard". The better stuff I can think of is mostly deep technical stuff like Map Reduce built to support search. Facebook has also done fairly well with things that are pillars to support the (formerly) namesake product.

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Post by Tanjreeve »

ashleyn wrote: post #2

This bodes very poorly for Facebook. The money may still come in but forward-thinking younger talent can be the crucial difference between a trendy company like Facebook and a corporate monolith like Oracle.

Is this actually true? I'm not sure what younger means but pretty much every anecdote of innovation i know is mostly late 20s early 30s engineers with a few YOE and a couple exceptions of whizzkids straight out of college (e.g Facebook). Genuinely quite interested if there is evidence round age and innovation in Tech.

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Post by wongarsu »

lordnacho wrote: post #32

I would guess people evaluate their job on money/work/stink axes. All of FAANG pays well, so what's left is whether the work is interesting/important/fulfilling and whether the company has integrity/evil issues. Eg you might think F1 has interesting problems despite glorifying fossil fuel cars, or you might think drones are technically challenging despite being used to kill people. Loads of people become nurses and t…

I imagine some people who don't want to work at a FAANG still apply to leverage that offer somewhere else. It helps a lot in salary negotiations to be able to say "Facebook offered me $X, but I like you guys more, so how about we try to find a way to make that work"

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Post by uptheroots »

justapassenger wrote: post #79
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #45

I have to wonder if job satisfaction at Facebook has a very binomial distribution. This is pretty much true at any large corp, where there can be a ton of variation between teams, but from the outside looking in it seems that Facebook basically has a dichotomy: On one hand you have teams working on interesting and industry-leading tech, like React, GraphQL, Oculus, etc. But on the other you have legions of people wor…

> But on the other you have legions of people working to make the money machine printing, and I've got to think most of that work sucks: the nitty-gritty of keeping the site up, content moderation teams, all the ad plumbing. From technical point of view, things like keeping such a huge site up, or building ads backend can be very rewarding for infrastructure minded folks.

Very true, lots of fun distributed systems problems can be found working in infrastructure for FAANG companies.
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