Can someone explain what Vercel does.
I'm familiar with Svelte, but interestingly not with Vercel. A scan of their website wasn't completely clear, but that is probably just me.
Edit: thanks to all who answered, very helpful.
Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time
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Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time
#82Cloudflare will regret not having a developer go-to framework for their advanced Worker stuff one day. I think they are waiting for someone else to build for it which is IMO the completely wrong approach for the dream of the serverless app. You got to own the full stack including software. I can easily see Vercel becoming the pretty much only go-to in this space just from the developer trust they have created with Ne…
They do have https://flareact.com/ and although it is still early, it is very promising. They have used patterns from Next.js so it is easy for developers to migrate.
This is not Cloudflare:
> Flareact is an experiment created by Josh Larson in August 2020.
Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time
#83So I'm a backend engineering, but have experience with Vue.js and like it. Why would I want to rethink that and try out Svelte? Reading about svelte the main advantage seems to be everything building to raw JS making it faster. Questions: Is there typescript support? I would assume, but... Does this end up with smaller bundles/js files? Any other major advantages? From some reading syntax seems pretty similar to Vue…
There is typescript support.
Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time
#84Can someone explain what Vercel does. I'm familiar with Svelte, but interestingly not with Vercel. A scan of their website wasn't completely clear, but that is probably just me. Edit: thanks to all who answered, very helpful.
Used to be called Now. It’s a PaaS.
Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time
#85Cloudflare will regret not having a developer go-to framework for their advanced Worker stuff one day. I think they are waiting for someone else to build for it which is IMO the completely wrong approach for the dream of the serverless app. You got to own the full stack including software. I can easily see Vercel becoming the pretty much only go-to in this space just from the developer trust they have created with Ne…
Denoflare ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29142772 ) is compelling.
Also not Cloudflare (to my knowledge)
Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time
#86Can someone explain what Vercel does. I'm familiar with Svelte, but interestingly not with Vercel. A scan of their website wasn't completely clear, but that is probably just me. Edit: thanks to all who answered, very helpful.
They are a competitor with other clouds like AWS/Azure/GCP/DigitalOcean with a focus on JAMStack and modern workflows.
Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time
#87Awesome news! Having worked with frontend frameworks for years, I've grown pessimistic about them in general, but I'm enthusiastic about Svelte because it does so many things right that actually avoid a lot of the issues other frameworks claim to solve but actually make worse. Interacting with the Svelte compiler is ridiculously easy. Though the documentation can be improved, I found it trivial to import the Svelte c…
Ember was the first framework I used and also the most frustrating. At least with Vue and React I can poke at the internals and they make sense, but Ember's internals had so many oddities that thoroughly confused me.
Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time
#88I've been pretty skeptical about SPAs but having tried out Svelte for a few side projects, I have to admin I was probably directing my skepticism to the wrong thing, probably React was the cause of my dislike for SPAs. Svelte looks really awesome and the simplicity it brings back is invaluable. I really wish it takes off, for real. Looks very promising.
Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
They do have https://flareact.com/ and although it is still early, it is very promising. They have used patterns from Next.js so it is easy for developers to migrate.
This is not Cloudflare: > Flareact is an experiment created by Josh Larson in August 2020.
You are right. Sounds like they need to sponsor him!
Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time
#90This is such great news! I've been vaguely aware of svelte for some time now but it wasn't until a few months ago that I started using it professionally and it is such a joy to use!
I recently did an onboarding and explained why svelte instead of react of vue, and svelte code, to me, is so much more intuitive and clean!
Thanks for the awesome work Rich and best of luck in this new chapter!