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Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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But, it's not direct payment to publishers. It's indirect via twitter. You can pay publishers directly already by buying subscriptions. Publishers angling for retweets to get nickels from twitter's algorithm is anathema to professional journalism. This is mostly my hot take just based on the press release, but color me dubious. Local news is struggling nationwide and this doesn't feel like a solution. It feels like s…

> You can pay publishers directly already by buying subscriptions But that's not how most of us access news. We look at sources like Twitter, Hacker News, Facebook, Google News for links to articles. Subscribing to a single website doesn't work in this model.

Why wouldn't it work? You simply subscribe to a publisher you are valuing.

Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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post #25

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But, it's not direct payment to publishers. It's indirect via twitter. You can pay publishers directly already by buying subscriptions. Publishers angling for retweets to get nickels from twitter's algorithm is anathema to professional journalism. This is mostly my hot take just based on the press release, but color me dubious. Local news is struggling nationwide and this doesn't feel like a solution. It feels like s…

> You can pay publishers directly already by buying subscriptions. I don't mind paying for news. However, I do mind being on hold for 2 hours on a 1800 number that I had to dig up from some defunct webpage to cancel my subscription.

This is already illegal if you are in California and you can call your representatives and tell them to support the Unsubscribe Act to make it illegal nationwide.

House link- https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3953

Senate link - https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/207...

Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But, it's not direct payment to publishers. It's indirect via twitter. You can pay publishers directly already by buying subscriptions. Publishers angling for retweets to get nickels from twitter's algorithm is anathema to professional journalism. This is mostly my hot take just based on the press release, but color me dubious. Local news is struggling nationwide and this doesn't feel like a solution. It feels like s…

> You can pay publishers directly already by buying subscriptions. I don't mind paying for news. However, I do mind being on hold for 2 hours on a 1800 number that I had to dig up from some defunct webpage to cancel my subscription.

Sending physical mail can be effective, too, and can use less of your time in a trade for additional walltime.

Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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You're right, it probably won't, at least not while it's still printing money for all the corporate entities involved. But it's my understanding that most of the data-harvesting tools in use today were originally created to enhance ad-targeting and drive up CPM. At the very least we can hope products like Blue might put a dent in this incentive structure.

Facebook makes maybe about 30USD a year from any given profile: > https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/security/a212721... Being relatively optimistic about Twitter's size, and assuming they're just fantastic at it, Twitter might make what, half of that? So for 3$ a month you need about half of the userbase to be on board for data munging to no longer make sense as a business model. I do wonder how high that m…

> So for 3$ a month you need about half of the userbase to be on board for data munging to no longer make sense as a business model.

I think you might be assuming that advertising revenue is evenly distributed among users.

Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But, it's not direct payment to publishers. It's indirect via twitter. You can pay publishers directly already by buying subscriptions. Publishers angling for retweets to get nickels from twitter's algorithm is anathema to professional journalism. This is mostly my hot take just based on the press release, but color me dubious. Local news is struggling nationwide and this doesn't feel like a solution. It feels like s…

> You can pay publishers directly already by buying subscriptions But that's not how most of us access news. We look at sources like Twitter, Hacker News, Facebook, Google News for links to articles. Subscribing to a single website doesn't work in this model.

Who is "we"? I look at aggregators but I also subscribe at the source for publications I value.

Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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- Doesn't remove ads on Twitter itself - Is not compatible with any news paywalls (they just strip ads out of already free-to-access articles) - Edit Tweet isn't Edit Tweet. It's an option to delay your tweets by 60 seconds. After that, you cannot Edit Tweet. "Slow Tweet" is more accurate but probably less marketable. Even if I were still using Twitter, and even though I support journalism when I can (paywalls for a…

I would pay this to kill the promoted tweets. I know it sounds super tin-foil hat but in the days or weeks leading up to Twitter's earnings reports the promoted tweets are absolutely out of control. This year I took screenshots of my feed where out of 14 tweets 10 were promoted!

Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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I really want to like Twitter Blue. I'm having a hard time deciding if I'm cynical, or if it's Twitter product people being cynical:

The changes we are paying for are client-side features only! There's no change to twitter.

For example, you can't edit a tweet, you can only delay sending the tweet for a few seconds while you stare at the tweet!

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