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Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by t0bia_s » Thu, Oct 28, 2021, 6:41 AM UTC

toyg wrote: post #43

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, just 14 days to flatten the curve.

If everyone had locked down hard in those fateful months of last year, like China did, we wouldn't be here. But we didn't, and so we are here.

We still don't know the origin of virus and yet you believe that China handle it well. Look at Sweeden, or Denmark. No restrictions and it is perfectly fine. Idea of locking down people at home because of virus, that has mortality 0.04% for infected people, with average of 79 years, is non acceptable and insane and definitely not healthy.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by WinstonSmith84 » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 12:50 PM UTC

raverbashing wrote: post #8

The keys are revocable and replaceable (and it was probably a member state set of keys), so it shouldn't be too big of a deal

Are you suggesting that a few hundreds millions certificate shall be re-issued, distributed either in person, or per email, or even per post for some countries? Sounds easy :-)

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by WinstonSmith84 » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 12:53 PM UTC

ChemSpider wrote: post #9

Technical issues aside, the EU Green pass is a gigantic success. Super easy travel across Europe and all other participating countries.

Absolutely agree, now traveling outside of Europe is as easy as between European regions, this is so much more consistent!

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by WinstonSmith84 » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 1:12 PM UTC

toyg wrote: post #31

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So... from just driving across the border, it's got "super easy", by having to stop at every border crossing, "papers please", and "medical papers please"? I've traveled through the balkan in the 90s, and it was easier then, than now. And even during the war times, the travel was more consistent, and I didn't have to check the border crossing rules every day, because they didn't change that often.

This is not meant to be a "forever" state of things, hopefully we'll go back to basic Schengen rules when the emergency subsides. Sadly the virus is what it is, and compartimentalising systems as much as possible is necessary to fight it.

This is so naive... let be honest, it's just pure nationalism, the pride of each country thinking to be better than the neighbours.

Let's take some examples of some "flagship" western European countries, such as Germany or the UK. These 2 countries have constantly classified the risk level of other countries, forbidding/warning their citizen to not travel abroad in "risk areas", despite themselves having, at times, much higher infection rates than any other country they classified at risk. It was specifically the case in the first half of 2021.

A counter example, the US is as big as the whole of Europe and they didn't "compartimentize" their states like it happened in Europe. And they just did ok (compared to Europe)

One has to realize that Europe is a patchwork of countries which have always fought against each other since history remembers, and "Schengen rules" is a new thing which is not deeply changing the culture and instincts of these countries and their citizen.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by WinstonSmith84 » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 1:18 PM UTC

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #45

toyg wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If everyone had locked down hard in those fateful months of last year, like China did, we wouldn't be here. But we didn't, and so we are here.

Australia did just that... and then someone caughed across the border, and they did it again.. and again.. and again. And australia is an island, compared to europe, where people literally live, work and shop in different countries.

Yes. And add Thailand to the list. full lockdown almost 2 years long, not a case, population goes into (even more) poverty as tourists are excluded. Then they open and... oops..

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by enzino » Sat, Oct 30, 2021, 6:36 PM UTC

laurensr wrote: post #61

enzino wrote: post #17

let's index millions of people's personal and health data, including their exposure to dna-altering drugs that might have health repercussions for years afterwards... and secure them so well than some kid can create and sign a record for a mister adolf Hitler. what can go wrong?

The myth about vaccines equaling gene therapy has been debunked multiple times [1]. [1]: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-mrna-gene-id...

getting debunkers' attention, these days, is proof enough that the claim is true. this is not even controversial lol. "vaccines" manufacturers itself describe them as rna vectors. modeRNA has it in its name and stock ticker. it's surprising how stupid propagandists are.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by pbak » Sat, Oct 30, 2021, 11:47 PM UTC

soco wrote: post #49

pbak wrote: post #24

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I swallowed a Mmmemberberry, and this came back to me : "I was 20 years old, before the USofA Congress voted for the Patriot Act. I was about to travel a short 1h hop by plane, and I walked directly to the gate from the parking, right in front of the plane. I presented my password and ticket to the attendant, and boarded." That's it. Nothing more to this memory.

That stopped with 9/11.

Precisely.

Didn't the US finish up in Afghanistan and Iraq ? Why don't we go back ?