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14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by lights0123 »

wyldfire wrote: post #77

> The "butterfly" mechanism offered reduced key travel and keyboard reliability. I couldn't quite tell whether this was a subtle joke or not. I didn't know whether the butterfly design was actually intended to improve reliability or not. Regardless, the effect was actually worse reliability. I decided to get a second opinion from a machine [1] that probably was trained on input from humans. It said that the noun phra…

reduced (key travel and keyboard reliability), not (reduced key travel) and keyboard reliability

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by kgermino »

wyldfire wrote: post #77

> The "butterfly" mechanism offered reduced key travel and keyboard reliability. I couldn't quite tell whether this was a subtle joke or not. I didn't know whether the butterfly design was actually intended to improve reliability or not. Regardless, the effect was actually worse reliability. I decided to get a second opinion from a machine [1] that probably was trained on input from humans. It said that the noun phra…

Interesting input from the ai, but reduced is definitely intended to apply to both "key travel" and "keyboard reliability" in that sentence.

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Post by cjbconnor »

seanalltogether wrote: post #74

Can anyone recommend a good thunderbolt dock they've been using. Ideally I would like a dock that at least provides for displayport, ethernet, audio, and 1 or 2 usb-a ports. I'm fine with using the magsafe if power through the dock is not available.

I've been using the Caldigit TS3+ for the last ~year, and it's pretty good. The only real issue with it I have is the fact that it only supports DisplayPort 1.2, so I have to run another cable for my 4k 120hz display.

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by rangoon626 »

stuff4ben wrote: post #64
reilly3000 wrote: post #39

Much has already been said about this, but this achievement of shipping a MBP that pro users seem to love is a triumph of user feedback over design purity. I suspect that Jony Ives’ departure may have facilitated this. I suspect it will be a breakout success and I aspire to contribute to their sales figures some day. Of all of Apple’s revenue streams I know their pro products are now merely an afterthought, but they…

> I suspect that Jony Ives’ departure may have facilitated this. I'm sure that is a very accurate statement. I thoroughly enjoy the improvements to the keyboard and adding back in the new ports. But I wonder what the future of the MacBook will be without the visionary design from Ives? Are we going to see a melding of PC and Macs or will Apple keep design innovation at the forefront?

I'm not trying to be mean spirited, but it was clear that his time was up. That's totally fine. He made some great contributions, but that doesn't mean that he can or will through his last waking moment.

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Post by pornel »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #28

> It will probably take a little while for Mac apps to be updated to support the ProMotion display. I found that some apps scrolled text in the same buttery-smooth way that apps do on my iPhone and iPad, but others didn’t. I was able to find a few Catalyst-based apps that have already been written to support 120Hz displays on iPad and iPhone, and they looked spectacular. It surprised me that an app would have to be u…

I don't know about macOS, but on the Web introduction of 120Hz has been a compatibility issue. Lots and lots of implementations assumed `requestAnimationFrame` fires 60 times per second (treating it as a "tick" for game loops or anims), so the event frequency had to be capped.

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Post by d3nj4l »

anamexis wrote: post #34
bitcurious wrote: post #26

Two charging question for owners: 1. can you still charge over usb-c or are you forced to use MagSafe? 2. Is the other side of the magsafe cable usb-c or is it glued to the brick? I rather like not having extra cables/charging blocks.

1. You can still charge over USB-C. (The 16" cannot charge at full speed over USB-C, because it charges at 140W which is more than USB PD can currently deliver. But it will still charge to full, just slower.) 2. The other side of the cable is USB-C.

USB-PD can currently deliver 140W, but it's fairly recent and Apple probably didn't have the lead time to implement that in these machines. Should be there in macbooks soon, I hope?

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Post by shp0ngle »

moneywoes wrote: post #2

Do ARM compatibility issues still exist?

Yes, and they will never go away entirely

You can never run x86 dockers as easily and as quickly as on intel. If you have bunch of scripts in some deployment/development pipeline that depend on docker being x86, they will fail.

Other things…I’m not sure about October 2021, but last time I looked, R was still only available through Rosetta, because parts of R are in FORTRAN and that does not have native M1 support (yes FORTRAN), but honestly it’s so fast with emulation that it does not matter.

Same SciPy… or was it NumPy? One of those two have parts in FORTRAN and can only be run through Rosetta (so it can wreak havoc as you might need python pipeline parts in ARM and parts emulated). But I have not hit that personally as I don’t use Python directly

you cannot run Windows either dual boot or in virtual machine. Same with x86 linux.

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by beaner »

bombcar wrote: post #58
reilly3000 wrote: post #39

Much has already been said about this, but this achievement of shipping a MBP that pro users seem to love is a triumph of user feedback over design purity. I suspect that Jony Ives’ departure may have facilitated this. I suspect it will be a breakout success and I aspire to contribute to their sales figures some day. Of all of Apple’s revenue streams I know their pro products are now merely an afterthought, but they…

What's amusing about the "design purity" is this is basically (from an externals point of view) an upgraded PowerBook G4. Good design isn't limited to "make it look as much like a thin sheet of metal as possible".

Personally I dislike this bit. Thinness isn't everything, but it's something. I don't know that the new models really needed to look as brick-ish as they do, and the previous design was certainly sexier.
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