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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by aaomidi »

0des wrote: post #40
aaomidi wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you understand how it's different when it's on their servers vs having the functionality to scan for anything they want on your phone? We don't need to have this discussion again. Please go research the hundreds of thousands of discussions and blog posts about how what apple is proposing to do is entirely different.

> We don't need to have this discussion again. There's no need for this tone. People will disagree, and that's what makes this place great.

This isn't disagreeing. This is not doing basic reading before commenting.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by 0des »

rewq4321 wrote: post #56
mellosouls wrote: post #28

Before rushing in to purchase, note that in some regions, you can claim back a pair of Bose 700 after purchase of the Pixel (at no extra cost)... eg: https://pixel-offers.com/headphones/en-GB

Pixel hyphen offers? What a scammy looking domain. This isn't the first time I've seen a large company do this. Perfect way to help phishers confuse customers.

This is from the same company trying to eliminate the outward appearance of URL's from their browser.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by eikenberry »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #11
stefan_ wrote: post #6

Since this is Google making the SoC, surely we have Linux drivers within a month for it? Already upstreamed? Some register documentation? I didn't check, but I suppose the answer is "no". Can't keep pointing at Qualcomm anymore, I guess.

That's not how open source works in SoC design. In fact it doesn't work at all an here's why: Google hasn't made the SoC and doesn't own the IP, it most likely bought a bunch of IP blocks from established vendors like Cadence, Synopys, Samsung, etc and fused them together to create a SoC. All those IPs come with their own license terms and NDAs that limit what you can do with it. You can use it in your final product…

How do they use the GPL2'd Linux kernel then? It implements drivers in the kernel and the license requires that the source be released. Do they use tricks like nvidia and create a free software shim module ties in a userspace driver?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by turbinerneiter »

dreamer7 wrote: post #37

One interesting thing to note is how much more high-budget Hollywood style Apple's event feels in comparison to Google's event. Having watched the two events on successive days, some things stand out - Apple throws numbers repeatedly at you through out the presentation and you end up remembering quite a few useless statistics (55.7 billion transitors in M1 Max) Apple makes a much bigger deal about each device with lo…

Apple has next level processors, it makes sense for them to brag about them. Tensor is good processor, but nothing special, except for the TPU in combination with their ML. So they focused on the UX enabled by that.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by po1nter »

rewq4321 wrote: post #56
mellosouls wrote: post #28

Before rushing in to purchase, note that in some regions, you can claim back a pair of Bose 700 after purchase of the Pixel (at no extra cost)... eg: https://pixel-offers.com/headphones/en-GB

Pixel hyphen offers? What a scammy looking domain. This isn't the first time I've seen a large company do this. Perfect way to help phishers confuse customers.

I was thinking the same thing but it's legit and is linked from the official Google Store (in France https://i.imgur.com/tgwGoQp.png )

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by bung »

DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

Interesting comment regarding voting with your wallet and choosing Apple for the software. The hardware guys seems really unhappy with Apple's "walled garden".

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by throwaway09223 »

paulpan wrote: post #38

Tensor SOC seems pretty impressive on paper, will be curious about how it benchmarks and performs in real-life. The Pixel 5 with its "mid-tier" SOC (Snapdragon 765G) was actually pretty good thanks to the software optimizations. Bigger news is Qualcomm being left out. Will they go the way of Intel by incentivizing their customers build their own SOCs?

I've been playing around with the edge TPU on a coral.ai board. It's very impressive - I'm able to do real time object detection at tens of frames per second vs one frame every 15 or so seconds on my CPU.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by eric_b »

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck.

I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me.

[0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US

Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know how it feels white man!" - I'd like to mention that I don't think it's good to exclude any group. I'm not sure why it's OK to vastly prefer one group for representation over another when the focus lately is on fair representation of everyone? And finally, to those who say "I'm surprised you even noticed" - everything in the media where I live is about race and skin color - literally to the point where the narrative is that so-called "color blindness" is not desirable - so it's something I'm beaten over the head with daily.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by theshrike79 »

darth_avocado wrote: post #35
marcellus23 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device More accurately put, their intent is to scan cloud photos for exact matches with known child pornography material (like every other cloud provider, including Google), and then have the case reviewed by a human only after multiple positives, and only then forwarding the case to law enforcement (based on photos you chose t…

Correct, but there have been known False positives that have hash collisions in this system. That is something to care about considering the trust in law enforcement is eroding day by day

The false positives are matches with absolute gibberish generated photos.
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