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Re: Hetzner Apple Mac Mini Offering

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I just want a cheap way to live debug sites in Safari / Safari Mobile without being forced to purchase Apple hardware. Only reasonable option I've come across so far is buying used hardware. VM under Win10/AMD seems like a PITA.

You can rent from Amazon for $1/hour

It supports remote desktop and everything you would need

Re: Hetzner Apple Mac Mini Offering

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post #81
post #38

I just want a cheap way to live debug sites in Safari / Safari Mobile without being forced to purchase Apple hardware. Only reasonable option I've come across so far is buying used hardware. VM under Win10/AMD seems like a PITA.

You can rent from Amazon for $1/hour It supports remote desktop and everything you would need

Sort of as there is a minimum of 24-hours.

> Billing for EC2 Mac instances is per second with a 24-hour minimum allocation period to comply with the Apple macOS Software License Agreement.

Re: Hetzner Apple Mac Mini Offering

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> This could be an interesting way to run mautrix-imesssage Wouldn't you be able to have only a single identity? Because unless you can have multiple identities with a single instance, it would be a very expensive way of having iMessage capabilities.

VMs have been a thing in the Mac world for a long time now, and these would be powerful enough to run a bunch of them.

I'm aware, but I thought iMessage had some hardware identifier that was necessary to use it. I guess my understanding was incorrect then!

Re: Hetzner Apple Mac Mini Offering

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post #38

I just want a cheap way to live debug sites in Safari / Safari Mobile without being forced to purchase Apple hardware. Only reasonable option I've come across so far is buying used hardware. VM under Win10/AMD seems like a PITA.

Remember that running OS X (including in a VM) on anything other than Apple hardware is technically a violation of Apple's terms of service.

If you're just doing it for personal use, this probably isn't a big deal. If you're doing it for your business, make sure you consider the risks.

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post #81
post #38

I just want a cheap way to live debug sites in Safari / Safari Mobile without being forced to purchase Apple hardware. Only reasonable option I've come across so far is buying used hardware. VM under Win10/AMD seems like a PITA.

You can rent from Amazon for $1/hour It supports remote desktop and everything you would need

You can rent from Amazon for $25.99 a day and then for $1.083 an hour after your one day minumum.

> Billing for EC2 Mac instances is per second with a 24-hour minimum allocation period to comply with the Apple macOS Software License Agreement.

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Safari (not WebKit specifically; the rest of the browser) relies on OS libraries. Those libraries would have to be reimplemented for other OSes. I don't mean that that would be an impediment to porting; Apple have done this before—Safari 5 was available for Windows. (And interestingly, vice-versa, IE5 was available for macOS!) What I mean is that the differences in implementation of these OS libraries would mean that…

You're not wrong, but in practice I'd imagine >99% of bugs are in the rendering / webkit layer, not in the OS integration layer. Sure, if you're making a plugin that plays with bookmarks or 'Read Later', you'd likely run afoul of the issues you mention. But most web devs are concerned just about browser compatibility of rendering their web-app. In this context, as long as web page rendering and JS engine is identical…

This very much depends on the bugs. In the past I've found many bugs in text rendering (especially related to non-English text[1][2]), layering (inconstent opacity), audio and video playback, etc. which were dependent on the combination of browser, operating system, and, in some cases, hardware. The general trend has been for browsers like Chrome and Firefox to take over more responsibility but that's not what Apple has done in Safari so it looks like a lot more work to say they should duplicate OS functionality to make it easier for Windows-only web developers to test with Safari.

1. https://chris.improbable.org/experiments/browser/combining-h...

2. https://chris.improbable.org/experiments/browser/javanese-te...

Re: Hetzner Apple Mac Mini Offering

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I have a macOS VM under VMWare running on Windows. It wasn't that difficult, found some guides online by googling obvious search words. The only thing I haven't gotten to work yet is the App Store, but I saw a guide for that, just haven't done it yet. You won't get graphics acceleration btw, but CPU performance is fine. I believe the trickiest bit was running a macOS serial generation app and copying that value into…

Enjoy it while it last, in 3 or 4 years Apple will drop Intel macOS support.

By then, Windows 11+ will have moved onto ARM and whatever cross binary solution Microsoft is working on should be complete. Also, with emulation/virtualization, it's still perfectly feasible

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post #79

The rest of us not using Apple product watch with perplexity all things related to Apple hardware/licences, etc.

I mean if you're developing/testing for AIX you're gonna have to buy/find a vendor that licenses POWER8. I feel like we've forgotten that running software on commodity hardware is the exception rather than the rule for the bulk of CS history.

Re: Hetzner Apple Mac Mini Offering

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I had actually bought a bunch of M1 Minis that I set up as a video encoding farm. The organization I set it up for moved on, so now I'm sitting with 8 M1 minis. 1 of them is my daily driver, but the other 7 are just sitting there.

I contemplated setting up a rental service for them (something like $40-50/mo?) since I have symmetric 2 gbps fiber to my office, but I just haven't prioritized.

Are people actually interested enough for this to really be worth it?

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