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Twitter is being sued for letting Saudi spies inside the company

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Re: Twitter is being sued for letting Saudi spies inside the company

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Post by graperapist1480 »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #80
graperapist1480 wrote: post #79

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> more accurately that any action taken by the first party might be better viewed as being "really" taken by the second party your comment was basically contradictory. As is this new one - google meet and google duo is a “CIA chat app”? Why? What does that mean? Is someone previously on the Google Duo team a CIA officer? Is the leader of the team an asset? What design decisions are CIA adjacent? Where is this happeni…

> google meet and google duo is a “CIA chat app”? Why? > What does that mean? It means that the app may be used to advance CIA goals. It means that the CIA has control of the app along any dimension you're worried about. This is the nature of obfuscated relationships. If you're worried about something, and it's likely to be true, you need to assume that it is true. In this case, the assumption is justified. If you're…

this seems false

> May be used to advance CIA goals

What does this mean? Can CIA add a voice and video chat feature if the deputy director of it wants it? Can the CIA freely access internal communications? How? Who does this? Does Larry know? How do you know?

> cia has control over the app along any dimension

This is an excessively strong claim. Can the CIA delete the app and end the project if they feel like it today? Can they see what I’m typing before I post it? Again, why? Who knows about this? How do they do it?

Re: Twitter is being sued for letting Saudi spies inside the company

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Post by evgen »

homo_ergaster wrote: post #64
l33t2328 wrote: post #25

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Why do you say FAANG has been an intelligence front since the beginning?

There is a reason AWS’ first and largest region is in Northern Virginia

Yes, because at the time there were only four or five main junctions for cross-country internet peering locations. Seattle was not on that list and if you are not going to be local then why go to CA and compete for space, data-center engineers, and peering with every other late-90s dot-com on the planet when you could go to an area with equivalent infrastructure and less competition for the resources. The reason so much telecom infrastructure terminated in that region was due to proximity to the government center of gravity, but also due to simple geography and the tendency of new telecom infra to be built out in parallel to existing telecom infra.

Oh, you were trying to make some sort of sinister innuendo based upon your complete lack of understanding of the telecom industry in the original dot-com era and the existing long-haul infrastructure at the time? Ok.

Re: Twitter is being sued for letting Saudi spies inside the company

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Post by gremIin »

graperapist1480 wrote: post #75
denton-scratch wrote: post #61

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"Discrimination" is what sensible people do all the time. It means "distinguishing things that are different", and if you don't discriminate, bad stuff is likely to happen. For example, it can be bad for your digestion if you fail to discriminate between a hamburger and a house-brick.

yeah I’d rather hire 7 skilled and well oiled Jews than an “equal opportunity” ratio mixture of 4 whites : 1 black. but there is a “civil rights act” and a lot of creative, anti-hegemonic jurisprudence enduring that my militant ascetic coding-Shtel will never be a reality. :(

Your comments read like someone who just did a large amount of drugs. All over the place.

Re: Twitter is being sued for letting Saudi spies inside the company

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Post by homo_ergaster »

evgen wrote: post #82
homo_ergaster wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a reason AWS’ first and largest region is in Northern Virginia

Yes, because at the time there were only four or five main junctions for cross-country internet peering locations. Seattle was not on that list and if you are not going to be local then why go to CA and compete for space, data-center engineers, and peering with every other late-90s dot-com on the planet when you could go to an area with equivalent infrastructure and less competition for the resources. The reason so m…

> The reason so much telecom infrastructure terminated in that region was due to proximity to the government center of gravity

Yeah, that’s what I said. You could have just upvoted the comment ;)

Re: Twitter is being sued for letting Saudi spies inside the company

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Post by evgen »

homo_ergaster wrote: post #84
evgen wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, because at the time there were only four or five main junctions for cross-country internet peering locations. Seattle was not on that list and if you are not going to be local then why go to CA and compete for space, data-center engineers, and peering with every other late-90s dot-com on the planet when you could go to an area with equivalent infrastructure and less competition for the resources. The reason so m…

> The reason so much telecom infrastructure terminated in that region was due to proximity to the government center of gravity Yeah, that’s what I said. You could have just upvoted the comment ;)

The suggestion implied was that the infra was there so that it could be monitored. The reality is that the infra was there because the US federal government was, and continues to be, one of the largest customers of telecom on the planet.

Re: Twitter is being sued for letting Saudi spies inside the company

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Post by homo_ergaster »

evgen wrote: post #85
homo_ergaster wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The reason so much telecom infrastructure terminated in that region was due to proximity to the government center of gravity Yeah, that’s what I said. You could have just upvoted the comment ;)

The suggestion implied was that the infra was there so that it could be monitored. The reality is that the infra was there because the US federal government was, and continues to be, one of the largest customers of telecom on the planet.

Yeah I’m just saying they have a close relationship as evidenced by the location of us-east-1. How far that relationship goes you or I do not know, but clearly there is a close relationship
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