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Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Here's another link https://sizeof.cat/post/twitch-leaks/ Looks real to me based on the archive I managed to download so far

Don't open this link if you are in the middle of having a meal.

Paste it to a separate tab, then it works.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitch is not porn. It's maybe a gateway to onlyfans, but you cannot have sexual content on twitch. Even YouTube allows more nudity then twitch. So yes, there are girls wearing bikinis and underwear on camera, but that's as far as it goes.

That depends on your definition of sexual. If you have someone in underwear with the sole purpose of arousing people of the opposite sex, that is pretty sexual to me.

Porn and sexual are not the same. There is a line, and so far Twitch stays on the safe side of it.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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post #59

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Insanely high or insanely low? I actually felt kind of weird that I make more as a software engineer than some of these legit celebrities (not the very top ones of course, but still more than many of the ones I follow or have heard of)

Keep in mind this is just what they make which Twitch knows about. Plenty of sponsorships, tournaments and other income streams exist for a majority of these people. On top of that, besides their eceleb status, most of these people aren't that professional. Plenty of them are a combination of variety or casual, often to a degree the person isn't even that good in games in general. Their production quality also isn't…

The other thing for comparison to traditional jobs is the hours worked. Most streamers I follow work insane hours. Then the other bits and pieces they have to pay for themselves. For example taxes employers would otherwise cover and things like health insurance in the US.

On production quality, I think it's a mistake to think it matters too much. Live streaming is a different thing to television. In very much the same way Roblox is different to AAA games.

There's also a level outside of the more chaotic personalities who make a lot of money in spite of themselves where there is a lot of professionalism going in to making things seem pretty casual because these people know their audience.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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>the leak was intended to “foster more disruption and competition in the online video streaming space” because “their community is a disgusting toxic cesspool”. the irony in that it was leaked to 4chan

I have a theory that the more people use words like “toxic” or “cesspool” the more likely they are the ones causing and creating it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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post #78

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Isn't that the basis of the economy with the increasing wealth gap and so on? It's not really materially different to paying Disney millionaires to go watch the latest Marvel movie.

Maybe if viewed in a cynical way yes. At least when i donate to blue origin i get something tangible delivered to my door. Where is the value exchange in being one of 10k people building a faux-relationship with a hot tub streamer?

Same as with paying to see a Disney movie: entertainment. It's just a bit more interactive, since streamers are a bit more likely to interact with you after you give them money.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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The revenue in that pastebin have been double counted. The corrected data is here: https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam

Whoa. Is gross per year or since account creation?! Either way these numbers are insane.

Not really!

If you arbitrarily take $50k as a living wage then it's basically the top 2000 streamers who can make a living on Twitch. Random googling tells me there were approximately 8 million active streamers in September. Again arbitrarily assuming that 7 million of those are 'casual' and doing it for fun that means the percentage of streamers making a living wage is 0.002%.

Back of the napkin math but kinda depressing.

Edit: Someone on Twitter told me that Affiliate status is pegged around the top 3% of streamers. So taking that as my new baseline for "trying to make it" since you can actually get paid out, it raises the percentage to a whopping 0.008%!

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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> An unreleased Steam competitor, codenamed Vapor, from Amazon Game Studios The choosing of the name Vapor is probably no accident when the main competitor is Steam. Just like when IBM launched the "Eclipse foundation" which was arguably based on one of Sun's most prized possessions; Java.

Eclipse... Sun... how did I go all these years without noticing this!

IBM weren't the only people to play that game. The codename for the SGI Indigo was also Eclipse, for similar reasons, iirc.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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post #75
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> Some Twitter users have started making their way through the 125GB of information that has leaked, with one claiming that the torrent also includes encrypted passwords, and recommending that users change their passwords to be safe. Twitch just asked me to change password for the first time, so it sounds credible.

Kind of worrying considering my twitch is linked to my Amazon account, and all my banking credentials are linked to Amazon.

That's only a very narrow link though, isn't it? Just lets you claim Prime benefits, doesn't give access to Amazon purchasing or payment details or anything?
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