I was expecting a Persona 5 strategy guide. The title's pretty misleading.
An ultimate guide to memory palaces
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Re: An ultimate guide to memory palaces
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Do you have a source with more detail on the actual technique? They are a bit sparse on details. It sounds like combining the spatial map with narrative stories, right?
If you want to learn more about indigenous memory techniques read: "Memory Craft" by Dr. Lynne Kelly and "Sand Talk" by one of the authors of the experiment in question.
Thanks for the tip!
Dr. Lynne Kelly also has a related book "The Memory Code".
Reading that currently.
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> Do you ever "refactor" you maps to show updated understanding? Or do you find that this happens naturally? Yes. I often add on things. So let's say I read a book and years later I realize that the author omitted something very important (IMHO). Then, I just add that knowledge to the appropriate room. I naturally remember what was or wasn't part of the book. With these systems you're training your mind to think a sp…
what about running out of places to store stuff? i.e. a physical place that you know well enough to store memories.
It's basically impossible to run out of space. You can always go on a hike someplace to get another palace or journey. You can also reuse palaces in different contexts or weathers. For example, imagine it's all underwater, or it's snowing. You can create imaginary palaces as you gain skill.
Re: An ultimate guide to memory palaces
#84Moonwalking with Einstein de-mystified memory for me. As mrock described, in the beginning it was a lot of work building palaces and making associations, but like a muscle, things quickly got easier. In time, memorizing a list of 30 or so became pretty easy. I was able to memorize a list of 875 North American bird species and then recite it from memory. Took about 35 min to read it all back.
That's awesome. Did it change your relationship with or experience of birds?
It was like taking a walk around the perimeter of a huge mansion before actually exploring it. I learned the names of lots of birds and was able to associate them together, but didn't really learn their characteristics. In time I let the associations fade.
Mostly it just gave me the confidence that I was capable of doing something like this if needed.
Thanks for all the time you took in answering people's questions on this thread.
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With aphantasia, you simply cannot "visualise" the way other people "visualise". But you can still "visualise". Not using images but using the other mechanisms you developed. Many people with aphantasia are unaware of it because they can function just fine and have workarounds that fills almost all their needs. They simply cannot add an image to it. Personally, I can make memory palace work fine. There's simply no im…
Exactly. I can't visualize visual stuff, but for example, I can imagine and "see" code very well. I have a graph in my head of how various functions call each other or how data flows through the program. Sometimes the connections have different flavours/colours, such as build time, compile time, run time, frontend/backend/network call.
Would you say that you experience synesthesia or are you describing "aphantasic workarounds"?
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Exactly. I can't visualize visual stuff, but for example, I can imagine and "see" code very well. I have a graph in my head of how various functions call each other or how data flows through the program. Sometimes the connections have different flavours/colours, such as build time, compile time, run time, frontend/backend/network call.
That's still visualization though... The idea of my thoughts having color or taste makes no sense to me.
I can't imagine my house from the inside or from the outside (I can't see it), but for example I can count the windows on it and I can "walk" through it in my mind.
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Exactly. I can't visualize visual stuff, but for example, I can imagine and "see" code very well. I have a graph in my head of how various functions call each other or how data flows through the program. Sometimes the connections have different flavours/colours, such as build time, compile time, run time, frontend/backend/network call.
Would you say that you experience synesthesia or are you describing "aphantasic workarounds"?
I think it's probably aphantasic workarounds.