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Book review: The Checklist Manifesto

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Re: Book review: The Checklist Manifesto

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On a related note there is a bungee jumping spot in Taupo where the guys harnessing you sing like a small song which has lyrics of a checklist to make sure every lock is secured (They test each lock at the appropriate lyric) It's kinda nice and funny and definitely gets the job done as lives depend on making sure all locks are secured.

Much of the elaboeate gesturing that is done by Japanese train drivers and platform staff is them mentally ticking off items. The movements makes it rote. So no need to recall the next step which is embedded in muscle memory.

It's more than a checklist - it's called "Pointing and Calling" and it's both to draw more attention for yourself and for communication with others involved.

Re: Book review: The Checklist Manifesto

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Google Docs has introduced checklists alongside unordered and ordered lists. The keyboard shortcut to start a checklist is CTRL + SHIFT + 9. Blew my mind when a friend told me about this. Edit: Also, for software teams, GitHub supports checklists on their issues/PRs. My team has written a bot which blocks PRs until all checks are checked off. It's been pretty fantastic.

The markdown in github is damned annoying, though, it's whitespace-sensitive in THREE separate places (after the dash, between the brackets, after the brackets) - and then when you are saying "I did this" you have to add the x and delete the space between the brackets. I realize it sounds nitpicky but if you're really using checklists for everything then micro UX like this matters. (I'm sort of hoping someone correct…

I've also found this behavior annoying. There should be no difference between "-[]", "- []", and "- [ ]". There should be no difference between "- [x]" and "- [ x ]".

The solution we came up with is, for people who want to use the Web UI, GitHub has clickable checklists. For people who don't like the Web UI, we have commands.

To create a check:

    @bugout-dev check require 
To mark it as complete:

    @bugout-dev check accept 

Re: Book review: The Checklist Manifesto

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I remember reading an article some time ago about some people who inspected power lines from a helicopter. They introduced check lists and the number of accidents increased. It related to them no longer going through the plan as a team and absently mindedly checking off the list without thinking about it properly. My search skills are failing me and I can't find it anywhere.

Re: Book review: The Checklist Manifesto

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So I was following the service manual for changing oil in my wife's car. From memory it was something like this: 1. Place drip pan belo 2. Remove plug & drain 3. Use wrench to remove filter 4. Place new filter in 5. Replace plug 6. Unscrew oil fill port cap 7. Add 5 quarts of oil 8. Run engine for 5 minutes 9. Top up oil until level is correct as indicated on dip stick Notice there is an important step missing betwee…

Ever tried the "teach to smoke" challenge?

Re: Book review: The Checklist Manifesto

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I think we’ve lost the plot. The important thing is if you can recall and then use what’s in the book. If it takes repetition or length to do it, so be it. Some books even recommend you read them a second time for that purpose, like Getting Things Done and How To Win Friends and Influence People.

A book needs to be read 10-15 times in order to internalize it. Otherwise, when you're in the moment, you'll forget and revert to your usual pattern.

Is there research that 10-15 times is the threshold or is that based on your personal experience?

Re: Book review: The Checklist Manifesto

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So I was following the service manual for changing oil in my wife's car. From memory it was something like this: 1. Place drip pan belo 2. Remove plug & drain 3. Use wrench to remove filter 4. Place new filter in 5. Replace plug 6. Unscrew oil fill port cap 7. Add 5 quarts of oil 8. Run engine for 5 minutes 9. Top up oil until level is correct as indicated on dip stick Notice there is an important step missing betwee…

Ever tried the "teach to smoke" challenge?

I'm not sure what that is, and google doesn't seem to be helping me...

Re: Book review: The Checklist Manifesto

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post #86

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A book needs to be read 10-15 times in order to internalize it. Otherwise, when you're in the moment, you'll forget and revert to your usual pattern.

Is there research that 10-15 times is the threshold or is that based on your personal experience?

It's based on anecdotal evidence, particularly with sales training.

Re: Book review: The Checklist Manifesto

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> Making a good human-usable checklist takes a lot of workshopping. Airlines are still constantly revising their 200-page manual of individually optimized checklists for every possible emergency, as plane designs change and new safety data rolls in. When I first read the book a couple years ago, and introduced checklists into my team, I found that there was no great tool to manage and create checklists and share it w…

I built https://operandio.com/

Re: Book review: The Checklist Manifesto

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post #87

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Ever tried the "teach to smoke" challenge?

I'm not sure what that is, and google doesn't seem to be helping me...

I left out a word, maybe that's why searching didn't help.

https://wiki.c2.com/?TeachMeToSmoke

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