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Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Post by rualca »

lmilcin wrote: post #62

I wonder why is anybody still surprised. China has no qualms invading privacy of anybody. They will try any and every way to get whatever they need and they are pretty effective at it. Ever read about making business in China? What we call cheating or stealing is a standard business practice there. If you point it out they will back off and try somewhere else, ad nauseam. It is practically part of Chinese culture and…

> I wonder why is anybody still surprised.

This is the kind of claim that's deep in conspiracy theory territory until the smoking gun is uncovered, and once that's out (and only then) it becomes obvious and unsurprising.

Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Post by aasasd »

jaywalk wrote: post #31
ChemSpider wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used the tweet due to the paywall of the Reuters article. Another user below found the best link, the true original source: Here's the official report: https://www.nksc.lt/doc/en/analysis/2021-08-23_5G-CN-analysi... (link updated)

Since when has Reuters employed a paywall? I know they had planned on implementing one earlier this year, but that was indefinitely postponed.

Well, I for one can't read the article other than in the private mode, because the site says it's time to register.

Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Post by reginold »

hef19898 wrote: post #64
reginold wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying you don't care what happens to journalists around the world? Seems like a recipe for disaster.

No, quite the opposite actually. Just that it doesn't mean anything if a random Xiaomi user in Europe can type words Xiaomi is monitoring. Since that user most likely isn't the reason why Xiaomi is doing that kind of stuff.

Oh I get what you mean, my bad. You're saying the above poster "typing in Free Tibet and nothing bad happened" doesn't prove anything. Yep, agreed.

Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Post by lmilcin »

rualca wrote: post #81
lmilcin wrote: post #62

I wonder why is anybody still surprised. China has no qualms invading privacy of anybody. They will try any and every way to get whatever they need and they are pretty effective at it. Ever read about making business in China? What we call cheating or stealing is a standard business practice there. If you point it out they will back off and try somewhere else, ad nauseam. It is practically part of Chinese culture and…

> I wonder why is anybody still surprised. This is the kind of claim that's deep in conspiracy theory territory until the smoking gun is uncovered, and once that's out (and only then) it becomes obvious and unsurprising.

No, it is not and has not been surprising for decades.

In China there are no private companies.

There are only companies that Chinese government lets you run as long as you cooperate with the government.

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Post by no_way »

zolosa wrote: post #44

From the article: Relations between Lithuania and China have soured recently. China demanded last month that Lithuania withdraw its ambassador in Beijing and said it would recall its envoy to Vilnius after Taiwan announced that its mission in Lithuania would be called the Taiwanese Representative Office No one trust China but this sure looks like politically motivated. Was someone else able to authenticate or reprodu…

You can read the report and literally look up file on your Xiaomi phone which contains censored words.

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Post by throwaway52170 »

sudosysgen wrote: post #74
gpderetta wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was stupid enough to buy a Xiaomi phone without enough due diligence. Aside from all spying that is going on, the software is abysmal. The problem with replacing the OS is that I believe most banking apps I use will stop working. Might just need to write this phone off.

Use Magisk, your banking apps will work fine.

For now, until hardware backed attestation becomes properly enforced... Isn't security great

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Post by ignoramous »

bitcurious wrote: post #79
ignoramous wrote: post #45

There are no details really as to how Xiaomi censors those terms. If one does not use the bundled-in browser / app-store, I doubt Xiaomi can censor anything at all in other browsers unless they MiTM with client-cert. OTOH, many popular non-browser apps (at least the ones that matter) pin certificates, so even Lenovo-esque shenanigans wouldn't work [0]. What can they possibly be doing in the firmware or the ROM to bre…

Off the top of my head, theu can censor at the keyboard level, at the SMS level, and at the camera level: https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/pgk8y3/xiaomi_camer...

Yikes, yes: The Input Methods are totally under their (ROM's) control even if one uses a non-Xiaomi keyboard.
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