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So I'm supposed to trust that they will never have a data breach? For the lifetime of the company? And for all subsequent acquirers?
I understand the massive investments into "rolling your own" system for ID verification, but I always feel sketched out when companies ask you to send your ID and your photo to "a third-party" - where the privacy terms of that relationship are so obtuse/vague it's not worth reading. Is it really that hard on the privacy front to hire someone to keep watch and manually verify that someone is who they say they are? I a…
I'd feel _more_ sketched out if a provider was handling it themselves. I don't know how much I want someone unqualified handling the storage of this themselves...
Outsourced to Ping? Ok. Outsourced to some identity SaaS I never heard of that just closed their series B? Pass.
But then obviously I'd expect Microsoft to own their own identity story, and if they ever didn't I would immediately suspect I wasn't actually even dealing with Microsoft.
Can't someone train a GAN to do this-id-does-not-exists.com? I would use it quite often for this kinds of things.
I mean yeah, you could, but forging identity documents is illegal in most places with functioning legal systems, for obvious reasons. Forging a government ID and presenting it as a real one is a giant minefield that most people probably don't want to be in.
Are there any good identify verification saas?
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To be fair, it's not part of their login flow, it's part of their verification flow. It's a one-time thing, not an every-login thing. I also see no problem with this. What could they realistically use this information for that would be nefarious? It doesn't actually store the ID in any real sense, as they explain in the link, and I see no reason for them to lie about that. It's real easy to scream, "But My Privacy!!!…
one risk is the inevitable data leak and having these documents for sale on a darkweb market. how exactly is the ID anonymized? who knows?
Honestly if you are going to ask for identification ask for a passport or driver's license not this idiocy of credit cards and bank statements. That's just insulting my intelligence.
Though I applaud the effort to get age right and protect players, I'm not sure I'll ever be comfortable having me or my child scan our photo ID and selfie to upload it as part of a login flow to an application.
NBA Top Shot comes to mind. They allow you to buy with no problem. But, to sell on their platform you have to go through what is essentially a KYC check.
Your investment is sunk otherwise.
Whichever way, they're not getting my kids ID.
Where does the need for hard verification of the age come from? My friends and I were using the internet when we were under 13 years old (although not by much), and just clicked the button to confirm that we are older than 13 (mostly on various forums), and later on the same thing with 18 years old verification screens, and we turned out alright (at least from my perspective.)
Probably parents realizing their children were making in-app purchases beyond what they (the parents) were aware of, and charging them back as unauthorized use. The cc processors pass that on to the merchant, and will drop them if there are too many. Likely Roblox just reached some critical mass where they couldn't sustain it any more.
It's also worth pointing out that unlike Patreon's requirement for adult material creators, Roblox's verification is optional, which most of the discussion here on HN seems to be eliding.
https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/21/22684672/roblox-age-verif...
> For now, only one feature requires age verification: Roblox's new voice chat feature. During its initial beta, it will only be available to players who verify they are at least 13 years old. But the implication seems to be that other features -- perhaps specific Roblox games or community tools -- could be age-gated as the company works to protect its relatively young user base.
Though I applaud the effort to get age right and protect players, I'm not sure I'll ever be comfortable having me or my child scan our photo ID and selfie to upload it as part of a login flow to an application.