The Anti-fragmentation agreement google makes these folks sign HELPS consumers. Going to be a crazy situation if that goes away, the app you buy on samsung won't work on HTC etc.
S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
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Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Google phones allow re-locking the bootloader with your own key, except it still results in a warning during boot The warning is a great thing for security: I'd appreciate it if my phone showed me that warning after I've surrendered it to the border control agent (alternatively, a sketchy repair shop), or bought it pre-owned, or if I "lost" it and gets returned to me.
Let's start with the fact that unlocking the bootloader wipes the entire /data partition to prevent this exact scenario from happening.
Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Google phones allow re-locking the bootloader with your own key, except it still results in a warning during boot The warning is a great thing for security: I'd appreciate it if my phone showed me that warning after I've surrendered it to the border control agent (alternatively, a sketchy repair shop), or bought it pre-owned, or if I "lost" it and gets returned to me.
Let's start with the fact that unlocking the bootloader wipes the entire /data partition to prevent this exact scenario from happening.
Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reminds me of the idea I've been thinking about - kind of unrelated - but once a device is officially no longer supported by a company - particularly consoles and online games - they should make the source code available so people can continue from there on their own.
I've thought about that before too. As soon as something is no longer actively supported, it should become open for people to maintain themselves. Unfortunately, there's a lot of companies that would fight that with as much money as it takes, so it would never happen (at least not in the US)
Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#85The article makes it clear this ruling is entirely to the benefit of Samsung Electronics.
Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#86The entire focus on anti-trust and moved to harm to other (big) businesses - no care about the consumer. The Anti-fragmentation agreement google makes these folks sign HELPS consumers. Going to be a crazy situation if that goes away, the app you buy on samsung won't work on HTC etc.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given that Samsung's revenue is about 12% of S. Korea's GDP, I'm guessing that they will not.
Given that the head of Samsung was in prison for bribery of the president(of korea) and then got released on parole for using Covid vaccination as currency I'm guessing that they DEFINITELY will not. https://www.bloombergquint.com/business/samsung-s-lee-receiv...
Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given that Samsung's revenue is about 12% of S. Korea's GDP, I'm guessing that they will not.
Given that the head of Samsung was in prison for bribery of the president(of korea) and then got released on parole for using Covid vaccination as currency I'm guessing that they DEFINITELY will not. https://www.bloombergquint.com/business/samsung-s-lee-receiv...
Somethings never change.
Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes iOS is quite obviously a competitor to Android.
Not even in nearest terms, Android users mostly dont want to use iOS. Neither do most of the iOS users want to use Android. Like I said, they both are different kind of things of the same technology. Apple is no where near Android in world level in-terms of competition either. Like I said Kia is not a competitor to Rolls Royce.
In the smartphone OS market, it doesn't matter if apple is on the luxury spectrum and android is on the general spectrum, because they are the only relevant OSs around (excluding harmony because it doesn't have nearly as much market share as those two).
So yes, android and iOS are competitors, unless other luxury OS pops up to compete with iOS or OSs like harmony become more relevant to compete with android.
If Kia and RR were the only car brands, they'd be competitors of each other because there are "cheap" second hand cars by RR that compete with Kia (like second hand iPhones) and expensive Kia cars that compete with RR (expensive android phones that compete with apple ones).
Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not even in nearest terms, Android users mostly dont want to use iOS. Neither do most of the iOS users want to use Android. Like I said, they both are different kind of things of the same technology. Apple is no where near Android in world level in-terms of competition either. Like I said Kia is not a competitor to Rolls Royce.
Kia is not a competitor to RR because there are loads of luxury car brands that compete with RR and loads of general-to-expensive brands that compete with Kia. In the smartphone OS market, it doesn't matter if apple is on the luxury spectrum and android is on the general spectrum, because they are the only relevant OSs around (excluding harmony because it doesn't have nearly as much market share as those two). So yes…