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Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by saurik »

qw wrote: post #57
teekert wrote: post #2

It should also have an arm on the door to slap your hand when you open it for the 41st time in a day. I mean, that's insane, you deserve a slap. Btw, this reminds me a bit of my parent's Renault that would tell me every damn time I started it to follow traffic regulations. I wish I could slap that car and it would feel it. And then there's my father-in-law's Mazda, which has a GPS system that sometimes finds him 200…

It seems most "UX" tends to be less about the user and more about exposing the product. One example is the pause screens in Netflix and other streaming services. I sometimes want to pause the screen to read a letter or examine easter eggs left by the movie producers. I can't do that, as Netflix has a semi-transparent overlay with lots of unnecessary graphics and voting buttons. Half the screen is also covered with th…

If you just tap anywhere without pressing the play button all of that UI goes away and you get back to the pure video, just paused...

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by bruce343434 »

bloak wrote: post #28

It might be a good idea to take account of how long the door stays open. For me, making a cup of tea involves opening the fridge door twice but for less than a second on each occasion: to get the milk out, and to put the milk back. There's an alternative, of course: opening it once and leaving it open for about ten seconds. Timings are approximate. In any case, I don't need e-mail about it. I hope there's an "unsubsc…

Since cold air is denser, I always understood that when you open a vertical cooler the cold air just flows out like a fluid (gas) and is displaced by warm air. This is also why it's good to keep your fridge full, so that it has some thermal mass to it. It's also one of the reasons horizontal freezers are so efficient.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by jve »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #13

Be glad it doesn't (yet) shame your eco-ignorance on Facebook, doesn't tell your insurance company you occasionally buy bacon and doesn't call the police for you infringing their intellectual property by refusing to buy new genuine filters often enough. "Smart" home devices which are not open-source and not under your full control are a horror. I would break it open and remove the WiFi antenna if I had no choice of b…

I have an old Neato D75. It is offline, lidar equipped, does it's job OKayish. Maybe you can ask @NeatoRobotics are there any offline models available for them?

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by bruce343434 »

kwhitefoot wrote: post #78
aaronmdjones wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Appliances are starting to come with their own integrated 3G/4G modems these days. You don't need to give them access to anything; they already have it.

Really? Why would they spend the money to do that?

Data is the new oil is the new gold

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by option_greek »

teekert wrote: post #2

It should also have an arm on the door to slap your hand when you open it for the 41st time in a day. I mean, that's insane, you deserve a slap. Btw, this reminds me a bit of my parent's Renault that would tell me every damn time I started it to follow traffic regulations. I wish I could slap that car and it would feel it. And then there's my father-in-law's Mazda, which has a GPS system that sometimes finds him 200…

They should ask and receive consent before using in such rude ways.

Liberation and rights for non binary living things are the order of the day. The International NBLT society explicitly declared and demanded for their rights at their recent Silicon Valley conference as per this NYT article.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by thrwyoilarticle »

matsemann wrote: post #20
teekert wrote: post #2

It should also have an arm on the door to slap your hand when you open it for the 41st time in a day. I mean, that's insane, you deserve a slap. Btw, this reminds me a bit of my parent's Renault that would tell me every damn time I started it to follow traffic regulations. I wish I could slap that car and it would feel it. And then there's my father-in-law's Mazda, which has a GPS system that sometimes finds him 200…

Ah, I get the same urge using Google Maps on my phone. Want to reach through the screen and slap the developers. So slow, so many key presses. So often it changes something up so I have to re-learn. So often it makes wild guesses that are completely off what I'm actually trying to achieve. Have to press back button a hundred times to get out of whatever it's showing me, whops one too many, app is now closed, have to…

I use Google Maps via Android Auto. Sometimes I like to take a more scenic route, so I'll say:

'OK Google, avoid motorways'

And it will route me past anything officially called a motorway, sadly not including the A roads that are very similar.

Eventually I might decide I want to proceed more quickly, so I'll say:

'OK Google, use motorways'

At which point it will perform a Google search and read out the first result, a page from the government telling me how to use a motorway.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by mschuster91 »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #55
cirrrrrrus wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> can't have lidars and map your home (while I can see no reason why this has to require Internet access and can't be implemented an autonomous way). This is a great comment. I would love smart appliances (e.g. Lidar-equipped robot vacuum cleaner) that are 100% offline. If anyone has a list of smart yet offline appliances, I’d love to shop there.

> I’d love to shop there. If I had enough time and money I would start a company specializing in just this: home and office hardware (from kitchen appliances to smartphones and players) designed with care and focus on offline-friendliness, autonomousness, durability, ease of repair, configurability, hackability, upgradability and privacy without compromise in features and the UX. I believe the potential market, altho…

> the lack of competition is intriguing

Not really. Mass-produced barely acceptable quality is enough for the majority of consumers in Western markets (especially given that something about half of the population has no meaningful cash savings), and people in developing countries can't afford anything else anyway.

On the other hand, the problem is the upfront cost. Plastic and metal molds cost a lot of money (which means you need large scale to recoup that investment), anything with software will need the entire chain from developing the hardware and software to a secure way of delivering software updates, some stuff has extensive certification requirements (anything with radio interfaces, HDMI and other licensed connectors or to be used on/in vehicles) if you want to do it legally, some things are impossible to manufacture in an "open" sense while still being usable (physical media players, due to copy protection schemes), many parts have ridiculous MOQs making small scale manufacturing impossible to extremely expensive, and then you will need some sort of logistics chain to get your product to the customer and in case of warranty claims back from the customer.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by bellyfullofbac »

dTal wrote: post #53

The problem here isn't that the fridge is tracking door opens. That seems like a good application for a "smart" appliance - tracking how usage patterns affect its internal state and holding a dialogue with the user. The problem is that it used email , which comes across as passive aggressive in the same way it would if a human did it. If it just showed a notification on a screen, I don't think we'd be having this dis…

At least it's email and not another stupid phone app they force you to install...

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by option_greek »

saurik wrote: post #81
qw wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems most "UX" tends to be less about the user and more about exposing the product. One example is the pause screens in Netflix and other streaming services. I sometimes want to pause the screen to read a letter or examine easter eggs left by the movie producers. I can't do that, as Netflix has a semi-transparent overlay with lots of unnecessary graphics and voting buttons. Half the screen is also covered with th…

If you just tap anywhere without pressing the play button all of that UI goes away and you get back to the pure video, just paused...

It comes back after a few seconds. For this to work, you have to constantly be moving your mouse around.

Prime on the other hand lets you pause, read and even know about the person in frame and trivia about the movie or tv series being played. They don't have much content but they are way better than Netflix in Ux.

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