Sounds like a feature, not a bug.
Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop
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Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop
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It's such a shame too. Windows 10 is a great modern OS that everyone expected to last and be built upon, but they just had to go and push out a new "modernized" version and fill it up with ads. I wonder what you pay to be in the Windows 10 Pro start menu and if it's really worth selling out their professional userbase.
> Windows 10 is a great modern OS I’m an infrequent user of it but have a starkly different opinion. It feels like a layer on top archeology and the number of places you have to go to find settings and controls is unhelpful.
I hate how the File menu in all the office apps turned into some weird thing with no text on it. And when I do remember that's where it went and click it, not a menu but a whole fricking nother version of control panel slides out covering what I was doing...
Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m convinced that 80% of the hatred of modern Windows could easily have been avoided if they just made both settings areas have, you know, all settings.
I'm not convinced that's a thing they can do. Too many settings are in 3p apps
Yeah but Windows itself has two control panels for its own settings, no 3P installed at all.
Left over from the half-hearted touch Renaissance.
Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop
#84This is the achilles heel of Microsoft. They will cannibalize a successful part of their business in order to subsidize/bootstrap/launch or even straight-up force the adoption of new service. Every Windows release gets progressively worse when it comes to Microsoft's integrated services and how obtrusive they are. The cherry on top is the fact that Windows 10 Pro is $199 and yet you'll still feel like you are flying…
It's such a shame too. Windows 10 is a great modern OS that everyone expected to last and be built upon, but they just had to go and push out a new "modernized" version and fill it up with ads. I wonder what you pay to be in the Windows 10 Pro start menu and if it's really worth selling out their professional userbase.
I really wish people would stop using the word "modern" in marketing rhetoric as if it was a good thing, because more often than not they're using it and other buzzwords because they don't have any better compelling reasons to convince you to use their product.
No, I do not care that the newer version is more "modern", "stylish", "sleek", "clean", or any other number of useless buzzwordy adjectives. Tell me concretely what's actually better about it and how it will improve my (my, not your!) "experience". An OS should not be a fashion statement nor an advertising platform. It's a tool people use to get real work done.
Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Windows is everywhere. Not on the cellphone, smartv, router, supercomputer, webserver or tablet I use. Actually, they all run the same (with some customization) kernel.
That’s a very small, and biased, sample size.
The only place windows is competitive is desktop - a small and shrinking piece of the market.
Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
You do realize this issue was on Windows 11, an unreleased operating system correct? I'm not saying Windows 10 hasn't had its share of critical issues, but I can't remember the last time Microsoft released widely a show-stopping bug to the LTS branch of Windows (that is, the branch you'd be using for "mission-critical" applications).
It is not any unreleased OS though. It is a major release of the most widely used desktop OS in the world, that presumably got through many layers of testing and was released to a small set of outside users before the final rollout less than 1 month away. One would expect a pretty solid state by then.
so it was caught by an additional layer of testing, a little later down the pipeline than desired, but caught nonetheless
Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop
#87Windows is probably the most important piece of software in the entire world, yet Microsoft does not treat it like the most important piece of software in the entire world. They have no sense of responsibility about foisting this garbage onto billions of users. I've been a lifelong Windows user, but I've come to feel that Windows needs to be completely replaced. We simply cannot trust Microsoft with mission-critical…
You do realize this issue was on Windows 11, an unreleased operating system correct? I'm not saying Windows 10 hasn't had its share of critical issues, but I can't remember the last time Microsoft released widely a show-stopping bug to the LTS branch of Windows (that is, the branch you'd be using for "mission-critical" applications).
It's not just defects, it's ridiculous design choices. Why does almost every single Windows user on the planet have their attention occasionally taken by something utterly pointless to them like "3D Objects" or "Onedrive" when they look for a file, or choosing between "Edit with Photos", "Edit with Paint 3D", and "Edit"? And choose between "Settings" and "Control Panel" which seem like different skins of the same thing, except one has slightly more icons in it than the other, so does that mean it's more functional? Who knows? User has to decide. And why is it that with multiple monitors, if one goes to sleep, the windows all move around, so for anything you keep open, you're regularly manually re-positioning the window every day?
Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop
#88This is the achilles heel of Microsoft. They will cannibalize a successful part of their business in order to subsidize/bootstrap/launch or even straight-up force the adoption of new service. Every Windows release gets progressively worse when it comes to Microsoft's integrated services and how obtrusive they are. The cherry on top is the fact that Windows 10 Pro is $199 and yet you'll still feel like you are flying…
Hasn't this behaviour been the case since at least Windows 98? I'd say Windows has improved a lot since then! Remember Active Desktop, the Channel Bar and MSNBC? I may have misgivings about certain things in modern desktops but Windows 10, OneDrive, Teams, Edge absolutely deliver a better experience for an average user compared to XP, Microsoft Briefcase, Windows Messenger and IE6 - and XP was one of the good ones!
>> but Windows 10, OneDrive, Teams, Edge...
My company issued laptop came with all that. After installing some important software (embedded compiler and IDE, wsl, etc) my one drive complained it was full, which needs to be addressed or it will keep complaining. The recommended solution is to upgrade to a paid onedrive with more then 5GB. I didnt know I was using onedrive, so I turned it off. All my important files created over that last few months disappeared. I could buy more onedrive space to restore them or they did show them all in some folder so dragged them back to various places. This was 100 percent wasted time since the machine came with something on the order of 100 times the 5GB onedrive freebie limit.
Now months after having turned off onedrive, it's full again. Must have got turned on again, but not by me.
Teams is another one I dont even want to get started on. And edge is just chrome with MS corruption and starting at Bing.
Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop
#89Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop
#90Windows is probably the most important piece of software in the entire world, yet Microsoft does not treat it like the most important piece of software in the entire world. They have no sense of responsibility about foisting this garbage onto billions of users. I've been a lifelong Windows user, but I've come to feel that Windows needs to be completely replaced. We simply cannot trust Microsoft with mission-critical…
> We simply cannot trust Microsoft with mission-critical software any longer.
We generally don't, most servers and mission critical infrastructure runs Linux or a BSD. What scares me is that many medical devices do run on Windows and that is a future Therac-25 like incident waiting to happen ( https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Therac-25 )