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Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Post by csharptwdec19 »

ununoctium87 wrote: post #41
scblzn wrote: post #14

Time to drop all Atlassian products. Fortunately they removed Server licenses (you have to pay millions for the Datacenter ones or use Cloud) just in time for these new laws.

Atlassian products are varied across different jurisdictions. Chances are that if you’re using an Atlassian product in the USA, all your data is hosted in the USA too. Source: I work for Atlassian, platform stuff

At the end of the day though, Atlassian won't even sign NDAs with it's clients.

Make of that what you will.

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Post by Valmar »

dqh wrote: post #48
tomohawk wrote: post #40

Thousands of police and military on the streets maintaining "order". People essentially under house arrest and not allowed to assemble or travel. And now this.

We prevented thousands of deaths, perhaps tens of thousands, with lockdowns. And many more serious illnesses. It was and is still worth it.

How do you know this? Is there a control group?

Did government and media propaganda tell you this?

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Post by helloworld11 »

endgame wrote: post #26

FTA: "She pointed to Operation Ironside, the huge ANoM bust earlier this year that resulted in the arrests of more than 290 people, as a reason for the need for the new powers." So a successful police operation NOW is evidence that more powers are necessary? What kind of logic is that?

The bullshit, power-grasping logic of police bureaucracies?

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Post by tomhoward »

Valmar wrote: post #82
dqh wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We prevented thousands of deaths, perhaps tens of thousands, with lockdowns. And many more serious illnesses. It was and is still worth it.

How do you know this? Is there a control group? Did government and media propaganda tell you this?

It's quite clear that during 2020, the case numbers flattened then declined once the lockdown restrictions reached a certain level. (I live in Melbourne so experienced it first hand). Other Australian cities and NZ have been able to contain outbreaks with short lockdowns, and have been able to keep the countries Covid-free, more than any other countries. There is no other plausible explanation for the suppression of the virus that was achieved in 2020.

(For what it's worth, with emergence of the delta strain, suppression measures are not working so well, and the government policies are having to adjust, which is starting to happen now in Victoria).

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Post by vfclists »

endgame wrote: post #26

FTA: "She pointed to Operation Ironside, the huge ANoM bust earlier this year that resulted in the arrests of more than 290 people, as a reason for the need for the new powers." So a successful police operation NOW is evidence that more powers are necessary? What kind of logic is that?

Have they been all successfully prosecuted?

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Post by anigbrowl »

miles wrote: post #4

FTA: “…agencies can take control of a person’s online account to gather evidence about serious offences without consent, as well as add , copy, delete or alter material to disrupt criminal activity and collect intelligence from online networks.” (emphasis added) How is adding or altering data different than planting evidence?

Because the deception is aimed at other criminals and not a court.

  derpnet.com

  Criminal A: Drugs for sale wholesale
  Criminal B: I will buy pls
  Criminal A: Bring $1m to crossroads at midnight
  Criminal B: OK

  [Criminal B robs bank, gets caught, cops read social]
  [Cops take over account]

  Criminal B: I got the money, can we do 11:30
The cops impersonated Criminal B to deceive Criminal A but as long as they are truthful with the court about this it's legal. Please do not read this as an endorsement of cops' truthfulness or this law.

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Post by scblzn »

ununoctium87 wrote: post #41
scblzn wrote: post #14

Time to drop all Atlassian products. Fortunately they removed Server licenses (you have to pay millions for the Datacenter ones or use Cloud) just in time for these new laws.

Atlassian products are varied across different jurisdictions. Chances are that if you’re using an Atlassian product in the USA, all your data is hosted in the USA too. Source: I work for Atlassian, platform stuff

I'm an EU customer but my Atlassian Cloud contract is still between me and Atlassian Pty Ltd in Australia.

So wherever the data is, the problem is still the same in my opinion.

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Post by vdqtp3 »

dqh wrote: post #48
tomohawk wrote: post #40

Thousands of police and military on the streets maintaining "order". People essentially under house arrest and not allowed to assemble or travel. And now this.

We prevented thousands of deaths, perhaps tens of thousands, with lockdowns. And many more serious illnesses. It was and is still worth it.

"I will sacrifice literally anything to save an unknown number of lives"

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Post by endgame »

dade_ wrote: post #67
endgame wrote: post #26

FTA: "She pointed to Operation Ironside, the huge ANoM bust earlier this year that resulted in the arrests of more than 290 people, as a reason for the need for the new powers." So a successful police operation NOW is evidence that more powers are necessary? What kind of logic is that?

Now they can start their investigation of a suspected criminal element in the Labour Party and any other annoying opposition. These powers are a ruling government’s dream, let alone their financial master’s.

I suppose it becomes trivial to make everything "Labor's Fault(TM)" when you can arbitrarily inject data.
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