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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by indy »

bb123 wrote: post #55
beezischillin wrote: post #35

I stopped watching purely due to the Spotify deal. I was willing to give it a try until I saw that they were memoryholing episodes. I might be in the minority here but it felt like a betrayal. If he wanted more money he could’ve invested in his own platform like many others and people would’ve followed. There’s plenty of other content in the sea.

What does memoryholing mean?

Some episodes are no longer available, as if Spotify wants everyone to forget that they even exist. Episodes featuring Milo Yiannopoulos, Alex Jones etc. In other words, guests that offend the progressive attitudes of Silicon Valley

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by InitialLastName »

newbamboo wrote: post #39
bitwize wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Inasmuch as his message doesn't offend Spotify, their key strategic partners, or their financial service providers -- sure, I'll buy that.

Censorship is worse on YouTube. Think of how many affiliates YouTube/google/nbc has. I’d say more than Spotify. There’s a reason AM radio has more “extreme” content than FM radio. A wider audience means more people to appease; have to cater to the common denominator.

> There’s a reason AM radio has more “extreme” content than FM radio. A wider audience means more people to appease; have to cater to the common denominator.

What? AM stations tend to have larger ranges (FM is limited by line-of-sight). There tends to be more talk on AM because the audio quality is lower (and more susceptible to interference); I would assume that talk radio (where opinions are actually being discussed) would naturally have more "extreme" content than music, where the opinions are diluted by the presence of other content.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by Andys »

a9h74j wrote: post #27
Bellamy wrote: post #6

I'm paying Spotify Premium and still have to listen ads during the show. Spotify also sends video even though I just need the audio. It's a waste of valuable bandwidth and CPU. If there would an alternative I would take it. Anyway I have definitely listened JRE way less lately...

Not a single-video-file like solution, but you might think e.g. Youtube, Spotify etc could sync a separate audio file and stop the video streaming when a tab is hidden. Such a predictable waste of bandwidth, as you observe, that it might even merit browser support.

YouTube premium does this

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by yellow_lead »

markus_zhang wrote: post #63

The ones with Carmack and an ex-pilot (regarding UFO) were interesting. Other than that I really didn't have any knowledge of. It's more of the people he interviewed then his channel.

It's even hard to listen to these. I have heard enough of Rogan's "Wow!" and "Really?" to last a lifetime.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by klaudius »

xutopia wrote: post #48

To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

I suggest you read the book "Virus Mania" for a more skeptical look on epidemics, masks and vaccines.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by nradov »

duxup wrote: post #62
ceejayoz wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify didn't bring over the old episodes with people like Alex Jones, Gavin McInnes, and Milo Yiannopoulos. > “There were a few episodes they didn’t want on their platform,” Rogan said, per DMN. “And I was like, ‘OK, I don’t care.'” https://www.thewrap.com/spotify-deletes-joe-rogan-podcast-ep...

Kinda curious, do fans .. .care about that? I guess some do but I don't think I ever listen to past podcasts that I've already listened to...

I'm not particularly a "fan", but I do enjoy listening to some JRE episodes when he has interesting guests like Andrew Huberman. I don't care about losing access to old podcasts any more than I care about Netflix pulling certain movies. That's just the reality of all streaming services. Content gets removed all the time for all sorts of reasons. If you want to maintain access to something then you'll have to make a local copy on hardware you own.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by pessimizer »

adamrezich wrote: post #42
daughart wrote: post #15

Just like Howard Stern (note, SiriusXM also owns Spotify). They traded a broader audience and greater influence for stability and gigantic paychecks. E.g., in Howard's case, even though his personal influence shrunk, his importance to Sirius/Spotify grew as a fraction of the subscriber base is dedicated to one talent and would otherwise unsubscribe. Howard's deal has been renewed a number of times now. I can't blame…

this makes more sense for Stern because his audience is much narrower than Rogan's. Stern moving from terrestrial radio gave him more "freedom," whereas the same can't be said for Rogan. also, Stern took the deal when he had been established voice in radio for decades, whereas Rogan was (to my understanding) just reaching his height of popularity before the exclusivity deal began.

> this makes more sense for Stern because his audience is much narrower than Rogan's.

In what way was Stern's audience narrower at all than Rogan's? Stern narrowed his audience when he moved to Sirius, but so did Rogan, apparently. When Stern was in syndication and on E!, he had as general an audience as any radio personality (back when people listened to the radio.) Rogan has a very narrow demographic as far as I can see, and virtually that entire demo is a subset of who listened to or watched Stern during what was something like a 15 year long peak.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by djrogers »

xupybd wrote: post #49

I have a Spotify subscription. I used to watch Joe on YouTube. I haven't since he moved. I use Spotify at work to have something to drown out the noise around me. I watch YouTube to relax. My habits mean I don't even think of going to Spotify for a podcast.

Looks like I was mistaken - there is a JRE channel but it may be just clips
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