Gnome Shell on the Apple M1, bare metal

Post by DonHopkins » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 10:33 AM UTC

diragon wrote: post #36

nixpulvis wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder why we even bother trying to support these hardware vendors sometimes. I have been trying really hard to simply not deal with them for my own sanity. Are we not simply letting the leash out further for what we will accept and buy? Are we truly that powerless against the market forces which drive HW/OS sales?

Currently probably because M1 is absurdly better than the competition. They will certainly draw users away from Linux unless either this porting effort gets done, or unless other ARM options that support Linux better become available.

   display = XOpenDisplay("unix:0");

    root = RootWindow(display, DefaultScreen(display));

    win = XCreateSimpleWindow(display, root, 0, 0, 256, 256, 1,
                              BlackPixel(
                                  display,
                                  DefaultScreen(display)),
                              WhitePixel(
                                  display,
                                  DefaultScreen(display)));

    (the next client tries to connect to the server)

    display = XOpenDisplay("unix:0");

    cmap = DefaultColormap(display, DefaultScreen(display));

    favorite_color = 0; /* Black. */
    /* Whoops! No, I mean: */
    favorite_color = BlackPixel(display, DefaultScreen(display));
    /* AAAYYYYEEEEE!! */

    (client dumps core & falls into the chasm)

    display = XOpenDisplay("unix:0");

    struct XVisualInfo vinfo;
    if (XMatchVisualInfo(display, DefaultScreen(display),
                         8, PseudoColor, &vinfo) != 0)
        visual = vinfo.visual;

    /* Is that a SubstructureRedirectMask or a ResizeRedirectMask? */

    (server dumps core & falls into the chasm)

Post by mishafb » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 10:36 AM UTC

laumars wrote: post #70

bni wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"WiFi, Bluetooth and sleep issues." This is true for almost any random laptop, and has been since forever. Its obvious the M1 and its successors have a chance of becoming a well known constant since its a SoC, and not a collection of random components from many vendors (that might or might not have good inline-Linux driver). Intel Macs, other laptops have had different hardware components even for the same model over…

> This is true for almost any random laptop, and has been since forever. Not this old trope again. I haven’t had WiFi and sleep issues with Linux for at least a decade (I don’t use Bluetooth on laptops so can’t comment there). And I do use random laptops, including MBPs. People seem to hold on to the same old arguments about Linux that were true back when XP was released but things have unsurprisingly moved on since…

Post by teekert » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 10:43 AM UTC

azinman2 wrote: post #4

I’m extremely impressed with anyone’s ability to do this at any age, but if I remember correctly, she’s like 17-19 years old or something? Incredible! You go Alyssa!

Post by marcan_42 » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 10:48 AM UTC

rkangel wrote: post #77

caskstrength wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I’m so worried this project will get 95% of the way there, and then all the fun issues will run out and the M1 will be just another MacBook with WiFi, Bluetooth and sleep issues. You are right to be worried. Getting all the nitty-gritty details about modern hardware without access to documentation is impossible. In the end this will somewhat work but will almost certainly have worse performance than MacOS with high…

If they can reverse engineer a whole undocumented display controller and GPU, then a fingerprint scanner is easy. The barriers to these 'minor' things is motivated people to do it, not anything technical. This is something that can be helped with money. Fundamentally like many engineering things, it's a Pareto principle thing. You can have a "basically working" device but it's a surprising amount of (potentially dull…

Post by dsego » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 11:19 AM UTC

supperburg wrote: post #32

Wow going through this persons online presence, she is astoundingly prolific. Transgender, as well.