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> vim-like functionality with modeless editing
> nano is a quite capable editor in its own right
but the only features that are mentioned are syntax highlighting and hiding the help text.
Looking at the man pages for nano, it _is_ a lot more capable than I had previously though (though not as capable as vim or emacs), but the author doesn't really go into that.
I agree with the author completely.
As for the "yes but vim keystrokes" apologists, honestly I have yet to find something truly important I can do with significantly less keystrokes in vim. (especially if you factor in programmability and macros).
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* arrow keys * pg up/down * find (^W) * go to line (^_) the first two are standard across applications, and the last two are in the help menu that shows up by default.
> (^_) Confusingly, this is actually not a ctrl (^) shortcut at all. It is alt-g.
^_ is ctrl and underscore
underscore is shift and minus
So ^_ is ctrl and shift and minus.
On my computer, doing ctrl+shift+- brings up 'Enter line number, ...'.
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It’s not really gatekeeping or snobbery to say that knowing vim is more useful simply because I can log into any Linux machine on the planet and edit a text file without having to install an editor.
Except when it's vi and casual vim users can't figure out why nothing works
So I have a question and I'd like to understand if possible. To me programming isn't text editing. Granted, we use text to write most code outside of say Pike but effectively most programming is working with symbols right? Like .subst is meaningless as an operation on a string but .substring(0, 1) is meaningful. So I don't really get the advantage of such, to my mind, rudimentary text editors. At a minimum surely bei…
The advantage is you don't become dependent on an IDE. Ever seen someone who can't write anything without all the IDE aids to fill in code for them?
Programming is more about telling the story or writing the speech than the spelling of the text. Treating code as manipulating plain text just freaks my brain out as the wrong abstraction level. But as I try and remind myself 'different people like different things and that's ok'.
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Every Unix machine (Mac or Linux) that I've ever tried to use nano on has had it preinstalled. I'm sure not all of them have it preinstalled, but it's common at least in mainstream distros
In the late aughts, I found myself at the keyboard of a Solaris system that only had ed. I was there to get the network configured and it didn't have an optical drive, so there was no way but forward. More recently, I've found myself inside a container which didn't have any editors. I got the job done with echo, head and tail. Delightful.
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But your containers may be a bit weird if their environment isn’t POSIX. Like if you removed the “cd” command or the ability to read environment variables. “Containers” is any definition you want, but surely they’re built to some standard. PS: I do make “from scratch” images a lot, I know you don’t “need” to have any utilities at all, but I’m fairly certain that a lot of software expects the “OS” to be POSIX.
I don't know what you mean. Linux containers don't contain operating systems. They contain processes. POSIX describes operating systems. Every Linux process can read environment variables. They are contained in its address space. "cd" is a shell built-in. When there is no shell, there is no "cd". Not providing access to a shell sounds like great security practice tbh. Your applications shouldn't be using it anyway (t…
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* arrow keys * pg up/down * find (^W) * go to line (^_) the first two are standard across applications, and the last two are in the help menu that shows up by default.
> (^_) Confusingly, this is actually not a ctrl (^) shortcut at all. It is alt-g.
Am I misunderstanding what you mean?