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Re: How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says

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Post by blamestross » Fri, Aug 13, 2021, 10:56 PM UTC

TylerE wrote: post #44

blamestross wrote: post #30

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You need to have well sterilized water for that just not to lead to a sinus infection which will leave you more susceptible. Tapwater isn't good enough, and is going to be rather harsh out of most taps in the US. Clean water in general isn't a solved problem. If you decide to do this with tap water, leave it out for a day or so to let the chlorine evaporate and then boil it for at least 5 minutes. Netti pots are also…

Distilled water is available at any grocery store for less than a dollar a gallon.

At volume to supply literally everyone? Welcome to public health problems, where actions you recommend will be taken by nontrivial portions of the population.

Re: How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says

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Post by voisin » Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 10:58 AM UTC

walterbell wrote: post #25

Vaccines delivered to the arm deltoid muscle never promised mucosal immunity. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7733922/ > The mucosal immune system is the largest component of the entire immune system, having evolved to provide protection at the main sites of infectious threat: the mucosae. As SARS-CoV-2 initially infects the upper respiratory tract, its first interactions with the immune system must occu…

I am not sure if I am the only one, but I found it surprising that the immune system components you mention (serum antibodies and upper respiratory tract mucosal membrane) do not “learn from each other”. I suppose I had a naive / uneducated perspective on this, but is there an obvious reason why they don’t learn from each other?

Re: How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says

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Post by Uberphallus » Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 6:58 AM UTC

totony wrote: post #75

Uberphallus wrote: post #58

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> Somebody choosing to be at higher risk does not increase the risk to other other than clogging up hospital resources So it doesn't have an impact except for when it does?

Do you have a "obese passport", "health score"? You can't use a logic only when it's convenient. Implementing a health score and precenting unhealthy people (or even old people) from going outside would alievate hospital use. Do we want that? Although the vaccine seems to somewhat lessen the chance of transmission, it IMO is not enough to stomp on people's freedom. I would maybe consider it if it was the black plague…

Yeah, obesity isn't contagious nor causes immediate and simultaneous need of health services, but nice try.