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Google Translate pronounces 'rooster' in Spanish

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Same in Greek (though we use the Greek word for "rooster", obviously). I've found that Greek and Spanish oddly share many, many idioms.

And as an Spanish speaker, I've found that, oddly, Greek people "sound" exactly like Spaniards. In the sense that you would swear they are Spanish and yet you don't understand a word, it's uncanny! Is it the same for you guys, the other way around?

Yep, nobody in Spain ever believes that I can't really speak good Spanish, because I sound like a native. I had a friend pronounce Greek words transliterated to Spanish, and he sounded like a native as well.

There are a few minute differences, like the "s" sound being a bit farther forward in Spanish, or the "rr" in Spanish being rolled twice (in Greek it's only rolled once), or Greek having a "z" sound (which Castillan accents don't have), but largely it's more or less identical.

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> Considering that the English-language web is almost completely occupied by USians, it would be hilarious if they were required to finally declare that they speak ‘American’ and not ‘English’. For what it's worth, I have always described the language I speak as 'American', and it confuses people no end. ("Don't you mean 'English'?")

I find a similar response whenI say United Statesians either. The sentence "United Statesians speak American" could trigger a few people I know.

Gotta say, I can see the dissonance there: you use the specific ‘name’ for the country, but the two continents for the language.

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Greek is one of the bases of most western languages. You'd be surprised by the amount of words that derive from Greek in Portuguese. Here's a thousand of them for starters: https://www.dicio.com.br/palavras-origem-grega/

But it's not just the words, it's the idioms. There isn't much of a basis for voice cracks to be called "roosters" in both languages.

Worth pointing out that modern Greek has borrowed a lot of words from other languages, including the Romance languages. For instance, the color grey is 'γκρίζος/grizos', from the Romance language words for gray (the more ancient alternatives would be πολῐός/polios and φαιός/fios, with only the latter surviving to modern times). I assume 'γαλάζιο/galazio' is somehow related to Spanish/French azul/azur as well, but can't find any sources.

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As a non-native. Isn't it assumed 'english', means uk english, and anything localised is 'australian english....indian english', etc? I've even heard of 'scottish english'.

English has always been gloriously open source, and anyone can fork it. It is not owned by anyone and words mean exactly what you intend them to mean, and no-one can tell you otherwise. And you can spell or pronounce words just how you like, despite what they told you at school. That said, your social group may set its own expectations, and you may want to fall in line, say in your job application. So if what you spe…

> Oh, and Shakespeare would have spoken with an accent more like an American than I do.

Would you explain what you mean by this, I'm very curious.

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I find a similar response whenI say United Statesians either. The sentence "United Statesians speak American" could trigger a few people I know.

Gotta say, I can see the dissonance there: you use the specific ‘name’ for the country, but the two continents for the language.

That's a good point. Even as someone who calls my language American and refers myself a USian in conversation, I do think I'd have trouble calling the language I speak USian—but, as you point out, calling it American is painting with a very broad brush indeed. Maybe "USian English" is clearest.

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Same in Greek (though we use the Greek word for "rooster", obviously). I've found that Greek and Spanish oddly share many, many idioms.

And as an Spanish speaker, I've found that, oddly, Greek people "sound" exactly like Spaniards. In the sense that you would swear they are Spanish and yet you don't understand a word, it's uncanny! Is it the same for you guys, the other way around?

Langfocus: Why Does Greek Sound Like Spanish?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPMqoHPJzac

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English has always been gloriously open source, and anyone can fork it. It is not owned by anyone and words mean exactly what you intend them to mean, and no-one can tell you otherwise. And you can spell or pronounce words just how you like, despite what they told you at school. That said, your social group may set its own expectations, and you may want to fall in line, say in your job application. So if what you spe…

> Oh, and Shakespeare would have spoken with an accent more like an American than I do. Would you explain what you mean by this, I'm very curious.

AE conserves features of early modern English, like rhoticity.

Re: Google Translate pronounces 'rooster' in Spanish

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Could be some kind of joke/Easter egg. In spanish "Gallo" is also used to refer to that high pitch that sometimes comes randomly when speaking, more commonly in male teenagers. Which is similar to what's happening here.

Same in Greek (though we use the Greek word for "rooster", obviously). I've found that Greek and Spanish oddly share many, many idioms.

In Mexico high schools we have a class that is called "Greek/Latin Ethimology" (Etimologías Grecolatinas, and most people in high school go through this book: https://www.amazon.com.mx/ETIMOLOGIAS-GRECOLATINAS-DEL-ESPA%...)

There's a huge amount of influence of Greek in Spanish, so I am not surprised idioms are shared as well. (Spanish is kind of amazing in that it has Latin and Greek roots, but also has a lot of Arabic words like Ojalá, Camisa, azúcar, guitarra, blusa, pantalon, fulano, rehen, tarea, etc...

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