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Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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Post by aksss »

mgh2 wrote: post #80
gnicholas wrote: post #9

Pretty damning email: > In a March 2019 email included in the suit, Marvel Chief Counsel Dave Galluzzi said the release would be according to a traditional theatrical model, adding, “We understand that should the plan change, we would need to discuss this with you and come to an understanding as the deal is based on a series of (very large) box office bonuses.” UPDATE: just realized that she's suing Disney and this q…

> But for Disney, “Black Widow” has been seen as a success, given that the company also released the picture on its Disney+ streaming service for a $30 surcharge. Disney says the movie generated more than $60 million in digital sales this way, reflecting viewership of at least two million households over the opening weekend. Why would streamers pay $30 for premiere access, when you can go to theaters (pre-covid) for…

I've been loving theaters currently (post(?) pandemic). Mostly still empty in my town, all seating is comfy heated recliners these days. Bring it.

Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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Post by Jtsummers »

mgh2 wrote: post #80
gnicholas wrote: post #9

Pretty damning email: > In a March 2019 email included in the suit, Marvel Chief Counsel Dave Galluzzi said the release would be according to a traditional theatrical model, adding, “We understand that should the plan change, we would need to discuss this with you and come to an understanding as the deal is based on a series of (very large) box office bonuses.” UPDATE: just realized that she's suing Disney and this q…

> But for Disney, “Black Widow” has been seen as a success, given that the company also released the picture on its Disney+ streaming service for a $30 surcharge. Disney says the movie generated more than $60 million in digital sales this way, reflecting viewership of at least two million households over the opening weekend. Why would streamers pay $30 for premiere access, when you can go to theaters (pre-covid) for…

> Why would streamers pay $30 for premiere access, when you can go to theaters (pre-covid) for ~$12 with a better experience?

$30 for the household, a one-time cost. For one person it's a no-brainer, theater is cheaper unless it's a long drive away. With 2 people it's probably cheaper to go to the theater depending on distance and whether you get concessions. With 3 it's break even depending on theater costs in your area and assuming you don't get concessions. With 4 or more, the $30 price is definitely better outside of a few lower cost of living areas (if they even have a theater nearby). And you can rewatch it throughout that premier access period. Though that's less applicable to Black Widow, versus movies aimed more at small kids.

Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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Post by [deleted] »

tolbish wrote: post #72
kova12 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This assault at our language is so counter-productive. If you indeed want races to coexist cordially, spend your energy on something that actually helps their relations. You are literally making people who were not racist before to resent the other races.

You are responding to a troll account because this is reddit now.

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Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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Post by sto_hristo »

Jtsummers wrote: post #74
sto_hristo wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If naked promises are taken seriously and suddenly recognized by courts, everything will burst in flames. This is simply absurd.

I didn't say naked promises, where I've seen this have a real world consequence was when the speaker seemed to have authority they did not, or made a statement that conveyed an intent they did not mean. Like "We're ready to start on the project" being taken by a contractor to mean, "Get dev work started today" and then billing the work when the speaker wasn't actually authorizing the start at that time . It's about w…

But that doesn't make for a good contractor now, does it? If they're so naive to run after every stick thrown at them and lose on that, no real court should help them.

That is the whole reason for the "invention" of contracts, where everything is finalized, official, set in stone, and unbreakable.

Problem with Scarlet is that in no way she could have foreseen 2020 and didn't think any of it. Now that stuff happened, she's just angry at her misfortune and is reaching for straws. It's unfortunate.

Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

Jtsummers wrote: post #82
mgh2 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But for Disney, “Black Widow” has been seen as a success, given that the company also released the picture on its Disney+ streaming service for a $30 surcharge. Disney says the movie generated more than $60 million in digital sales this way, reflecting viewership of at least two million households over the opening weekend. Why would streamers pay $30 for premiere access, when you can go to theaters (pre-covid) for…

> Why would streamers pay $30 for premiere access, when you can go to theaters (pre-covid) for ~$12 with a better experience? $30 for the household, a one-time cost. For one person it's a no-brainer, theater is cheaper unless it's a long drive away. With 2 people it's probably cheaper to go to the theater depending on distance and whether you get concessions. With 3 it's break even depending on theater costs in your…

We have a new born and as such, banned from theaters for 3-4-5 years. Glad streaming is an option now.

Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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Post by Jtsummers »

Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #85
Jtsummers wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why would streamers pay $30 for premiere access, when you can go to theaters (pre-covid) for ~$12 with a better experience? $30 for the household, a one-time cost. For one person it's a no-brainer, theater is cheaper unless it's a long drive away. With 2 people it's probably cheaper to go to the theater depending on distance and whether you get concessions. With 3 it's break even depending on theater costs in your…

We have a new born and as such, banned from theaters for 3-4-5 years. Glad streaming is an option now.

Also a good reason to prefer streaming. My wife and I don't have kids (yet), but fortunately we also like different movies so when the time comes we'll probably trade off kid duties so the other can go see a movie and get away for a bit (when we go to theaters now, half the time we're not seeing the same movie anyways).

Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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Post by tajustice1 »

tolbish wrote: post #72
kova12 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This assault at our language is so counter-productive. If you indeed want races to coexist cordially, spend your energy on something that actually helps their relations. You are literally making people who were not racist before to resent the other races.

You are responding to a troll account because this is reddit now.

Is the IETF a troll organization [0]?

[0] https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-knodel-terminology-00.html

Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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Post by tajustice1 »

igetspam wrote: post #77
tajustice wrote: post #13

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Mind not using the term "blacklist"? It's racist and othering, ties negativity to Blacks and other PoCs. "Blocklist" and "denylist" are better terms that are neutral and more descriptive.

Nothing about the term "blacklist" or the related term "blackball" have roots in racism. They idea of dark and light being evil and good is biblical and speak to a belief in an afterlife. Making something racist because it's adjacent to something else is searching for racism. I'm sure a lot of things can be racist, if you want them to be. Let's keep the stones we cast aimed in the right direction.

Like master-slave, the metaphorical use of white-black to connote good-evil is oppressive.

There is even a name for this pervasive language pitfall: the association of white with good and black with evil is known as the “bad is black effect” [Grewal].

Indeed, there is an entire book on the subject, written by renowned authority on race, Franz Fanon. In his book “Black Skin, White Masks,” Fanon makes several persuasive arguments that standard language encodes subconscious in-group, out-group preferences

Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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Post by [deleted] »

bilbo0s wrote: post #62
CydeWeys wrote: post #48

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It's in an email. Why would that be problematic for court?

Because it's not a contract. If emails were contracts, every email that comes later would supersede it. You can't run things that way. If you agree to it, put it in a contract. But if you wanted to allow emails as contracts, then the last email on a subject would always be the final contract for instance. It would be too unfair and difficult to sort out. For instance, was the highlighted email the last email on the s…

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Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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Post by throwaway3neu94 »

tajustice1 wrote: post #87
tolbish wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are responding to a troll account because this is reddit now.

Is the IETF a troll organization [0]? [0] https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-knodel-terminology-00.html

That's not an IETF standard, that's a draft. Anyone can publish an Internet draft. They do not necessarily reflect the position of the IETF. Furthermore, this draft is expired and was not adopted as a standard.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wkumari-not-a-dr...

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