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I take data from these sites with a grain of salt because it seems far too easy and tempting to poison the data well for those wishing to see the rates lower than reality. Payscale is a bit closer to what I think reality might be. It's unfortunate how gaming perception and such information is such a potentially successful strategy. The OOH from DOL puts it closer to $14.66/hr which I put a bit more faith in: https://…
I don't see starting average pay on the OOH website, only median pay.
Amazon Is Creating Company Towns Across the United States
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Re: Amazon Is Creating Company Towns Across the United States
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Even if we were to accept class theory, in the 21st century nearly everyone has access to a computer, one of the most productive goods. You sure that's all that's needed? I am continually surprised when someone claims the internet is some all-mighty resource-rich network. It wasn't the internet that made world class scientists, it was access to privileged firewalled networks: capitalist universities, as well as sta…
I can agree with that sentiment up to a point. We're still better off now than before. Information is more generally available. If you want to publish online or create software, nearly every resource is available. The Internet is its own paradigm of value. There are still specialized fields guarded by academic gatekeepers. However even there, knowledge is more widely available than before. Hypothetically speaking, if…
I didn't claim we weren't?
> Information is more generally available. If you want to publish online or create software, nearly every resource is available. The Internet is its own paradigm of value.
I'd claim it's actually harder to be productive and to be exposed to the real problems facing the world. Today all of it is all hoarded, 'owned' and locked away by a small group of people. Just look at Shell oil company accurately predicting the devastating impacts of oil production and use back in the 1980’s, or big co’s burying of the early electric car (shown in ‘Who Killed The Electric Car’).
Instead of the magical wonderful world capitalist firms promise in their advertisements, we live in a single-use non-modular black-box nature-killing hellworld.
There is no universal invitation to follow your curiosity, no modularity and access to non-scarce resources (knowledge), despite us living with the most advanced technology we’ve ever had.
All this knowledge commodification means people are kept from understanding the physics (or just, science, overall) of everyday tools and products, leading to high levels of alienation [1] (not to mention all the mental health effects of all this coercion and domination).
I believe in a future where we can learn anything about anything. A world where we can physically take part in a myriad of different (democratic) open source production systems and processes, throughout our long lives. A world where our material accounting systems accurately reflect real-world scarcity, and not systems that upholds arbitrary laws that make life-saving tools, technology and science artificially scarce (and 'owned' by a very small group of people), and tries to shame and intimidate people for making a copy (e.g. shaming people in campaigns like: "You Wouldn’t Steal A Car. Piracy, It's a Crime") [2].
Today we live in a world where the tools humans need to work together are black boxes owned and created by billionaire property 'owners'. This is why I'm excited about the growth of the DWeb, because it's all about agent centricity. Some projects are starting to enable open apps whose public functions are hashed to create unique app DNA's that can evolve organically as the apps are implemented and used. It enables an ecology of distributed micro-service apps.
We need to take back not just the internet, but the world. This is about creating human-friendly living spaces for all. Bike-able cities. Green spaces and gardens everywhere for kids and adults to play. Not a world where certain types of work are made artificially scarce and tied down to a specific place (e.g. knowledge work in Silicon Valley) because of a violent archaic claim system (the ‘Intellectual Property' system).
> the term "world class scientist" is a bit loaded
‘World class‘ was bad word choice. I mean anyone with a STEM degree from a global north university that provided them access to the resources which are locked away for 99.999% of the working class. Someone who can command a big salary (as they're part of the labor aristocracy), as well as work on exciting research projects (much less alienating work).
[1] Gabor Maté on alienation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs39tNLQss8
[2] that’s why I am excited about Valueflo.ws by Mikorizal, and the holographic chain framework by the MetaCurrency project.
Re: Amazon Is Creating Company Towns Across the United States
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
isn't this mainly because paying in anything other then the national currency is illegal in most western nations? For tax purposes, even things like free lunch are considered paymeny aswell.
I am not an accountant but presumably any material issuance of some sort of scrip that could be exchanged for goods would be seen as tax evasion. Free meals are allowed under certain guidelines, which seem to be written in a way that generally lets companies like Google skate right up to the edge and not go over it (AFAIK). Things like loyalty points and rebates on business expenses are similarly ignored.
It's not. You just have to pay taxes on it.
Re: Amazon Is Creating Company Towns Across the United States
#84>$15 an hour, Amazon’s starting wage, is below the average for the warehousing industry Where are they getting this information? The average wage in the US is lower, like $13-14. https://www.indeed.com/career/warehouse-worker/salaries https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Warehouse_Worker/Ho...
I have a long-time friend who tried to get an Amazon Warehouse job after relocating to a new city for his SO’s career. Given all of the negative press he assumed they’d be desperate for employees and he could walk right into the job. It turns out those jobs are highly competitive in the area because they paid relatively well and had good benefits. The hourly rate alone doesn’t tell the full story. Many more typical w…
There needs to be naming and shaming of those that perpetuate this practice. I know retailers (Tractor Supply) for cashiers.
If you're doing warehouse work, you are part of the logistics backbone, you deserve not to have your chain jerked around. Arguably, no one should be getting their chain jerked around, but I'll call it a win to purge this pathological HR hacking from another business layer.
Re: Amazon Is Creating Company Towns Across the United States
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have a long-time friend who tried to get an Amazon Warehouse job after relocating to a new city for his SO’s career. Given all of the negative press he assumed they’d be desperate for employees and he could walk right into the job. It turns out those jobs are highly competitive in the area because they paid relatively well and had good benefits. The hourly rate alone doesn’t tell the full story. Many more typical w…
who would've thought that vocal minority on twitter does not reflect reality for all, cuz at the end of the day Amazon hires above milion ppl So, just to add another opinion I've seen only positive comments (sample size around 3) about working in Amazon's warehouse in Poland
Re: Amazon Is Creating Company Towns Across the United States
#86>$15 an hour, Amazon’s starting wage, is below the average for the warehousing industry Where are they getting this information? The average wage in the US is lower, like $13-14. https://www.indeed.com/career/warehouse-worker/salaries https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Warehouse_Worker/Ho...
I take data from these sites with a grain of salt because it seems far too easy and tempting to poison the data well for those wishing to see the rates lower than reality. Payscale is a bit closer to what I think reality might be. It's unfortunate how gaming perception and such information is such a potentially successful strategy. The OOH from DOL puts it closer to $14.66/hr which I put a bit more faith in: https://…
Re: Amazon Is Creating Company Towns Across the United States
#87I just went to Gunkanjima (“battleship”) island in Nagasaki, Japan. At one point it was the most densely populated area on earth. It was used at the villain backdrop in the 007 movie. The history of the island is that it was owned by Mitsubishi mining company during Japan’s industrial revolution thru World War II. There they mined coal from the seabed. Apparently, some 40% of miners died. There also used forced labor…
Re: Amazon Is Creating Company Towns Across the United States
#88>$15 an hour, Amazon’s starting wage, is below the average for the warehousing industry Where are they getting this information? The average wage in the US is lower, like $13-14. https://www.indeed.com/career/warehouse-worker/salaries https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Warehouse_Worker/Ho...
Re: Amazon Is Creating Company Towns Across the United States
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
who would've thought that vocal minority on twitter does not reflect reality for all, cuz at the end of the day Amazon hires above milion ppl So, just to add another opinion I've seen only positive comments (sample size around 3) about working in Amazon's warehouse in Poland
3 more anecdotes isn't going to make the data any better :)
Re: Amazon Is Creating Company Towns Across the United States
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
I take data from these sites with a grain of salt because it seems far too easy and tempting to poison the data well for those wishing to see the rates lower than reality. Payscale is a bit closer to what I think reality might be. It's unfortunate how gaming perception and such information is such a potentially successful strategy. The OOH from DOL puts it closer to $14.66/hr which I put a bit more faith in: https://…
I don't see starting average pay on the OOH website, only median pay.