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Bouba/Kiki Effect

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Re: Bouba/Kiki Effect

#81
I had a similar discussion about naming evolution and using "Borg" as shorthand for duplicating machine (I think that it is not a great word for this use): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27869571

It is always possible to create completely arbitrary words, but long term the ones that survive are the ones that fit in the language current state and evolution.

Re: Bouba/Kiki Effect

#82
Simply imagine what sound a 3D-object of the shape as in the WP-article would make.

The star-shaped object would make a "spiky" sound, the bubble-like object more of a bump-like sound. That explains the attribution of the words kiki and bouba to the objects in different cultures. My explanation.

Re: Bouba/Kiki Effect

#83
There's an interesting symmetry between the image and sound frequencies

"kiki" has lots of high frequencies: the i and the click sound of the k. Sharp corners also have lots of high "frequencies", but in the 2d domain.

There's an equivalent symmetry, except with low frequencies, with "bouba" and the rounded shape.

I feel like this can't be a coincidence

Re: Bouba/Kiki Effect

#84

There's an interesting symmetry between the image and sound frequencies "kiki" has lots of high frequencies: the i and the click sound of the k. Sharp corners also have lots of high "frequencies", but in the 2d domain. There's an equivalent symmetry, except with low frequencies, with "bouba" and the rounded shape. I feel like this can't be a coincidence

Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27890912

Re: Bouba/Kiki Effect

#85

This is how I remember numbers, spelling, and names sometimes. A sequence of numbers has a nice plot / wave to it. I can't say my mapping from these categories to shapes generalizes for anyone else and it hasn't made me particularly good at memory competitions. It's just how it works. Also, memorizing a couple of credit card's information has saved me so much time -- highly recommended.

Apparently this is a well-established memorization technique. Pretty interesting if you figured this out independently!

I have also heard that this same technique might be the basis for at least some myths and other sacred stories, wherein a myth arises as a mnemonic for something important like an agricultural cycle or migration path.

If anyone knows names of researchers in this area or books on the topic I would be very interested to follow up on it.

Re: Bouba/Kiki Effect

#86

Simply imagine what sound a 3D-object of the shape as in the WP-article would make. The star-shaped object would make a "spiky" sound, the bubble-like object more of a bump-like sound. That explains the attribution of the words kiki and bouba to the objects in different cultures. My explanation.

Yeah it seems kind of obvious really. But still interesting.

Re: Bouba/Kiki Effect

#87

Simply imagine what sound a 3D-object of the shape as in the WP-article would make. The star-shaped object would make a "spiky" sound, the bubble-like object more of a bump-like sound. That explains the attribution of the words kiki and bouba to the objects in different cultures. My explanation.

Make a sound how? When dropping the 3d object onto the ground? Or when making it resonate at its natural frequency, or something else?

Re: Bouba/Kiki Effect

#88
Many years ago, I wrote a blog -- no longer online, I'm afraid -- about how I associated different programming languages with different shapes. I've never heard of this effect before today, but it visualises almost perfectly what I was trying to express all those years ago. (I originally posited that it was some form of synaesthesia.)

For example, Python has a rounded or smoother shape, whereas C-style languages are more kiki-like (with JavaScript being the spikiest); Haskell, IIRC, had a squarish lump kind of appearance. I originally wrote myself off, thinking that maybe the shapes very loosely correspond to how the code looks in each language "from a distance", but I was never really satisfied with that.

Re: Bouba/Kiki Effect

#89

Many years ago, I wrote a blog -- no longer online, I'm afraid -- about how I associated different programming languages with different shapes. I've never heard of this effect before today, but it visualises almost perfectly what I was trying to express all those years ago. (I originally posited that it was some form of synaesthesia.) For example, Python has a rounded or smoother shape, whereas C-style languages are…

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Re: Bouba/Kiki Effect

#90

Simply imagine what sound a 3D-object of the shape as in the WP-article would make. The star-shaped object would make a "spiky" sound, the bubble-like object more of a bump-like sound. That explains the attribution of the words kiki and bouba to the objects in different cultures. My explanation.

Make a sound how? When dropping the 3d object onto the ground? Or when making it resonate at its natural frequency, or something else?

What would fit GP comment is: spin along the central axis perpendicular to the plane of spikes/bumps with a constant angular velocity.
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