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Goodbye, Fleets

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Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#81

Twitter is great when it comes to transparency. I love how they included this >Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets and talk directly with others. We’ll explore more ways to address what holds people back from participating on Twitter. And for the people who already are Tweet…

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Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#82

Big tech companies especially Twitter and Google have zero longevity when it comes to new products. How about they add subscriptions to Fleets before giving up, I’ve enjoyed a few really great conversations there and it’s a decent product like much of Twitter it just needs some love in terms of features and how they work. For example why on Earth am I not allowed to read someone’s public tweets when blocked. Twitter…

If I block you, I want it to prevent you from reading my tweets. Obviously you can use a logged-out browser window, but that extra step is supposed to be annoying enough to prevent most non-psycho people from reading your stuff.

Why do you care if I read your stuff that’s public on the Internet, surely we should all be trying to understand each other’s point of view more not less?

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#83
post #56

Twitter is great when it comes to transparency. I love how they included this >Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets and talk directly with others. We’ll explore more ways to address what holds people back from participating on Twitter. And for the people who already are Tweet…

Perhaps people are anxious about tweeting because a single tweet can ruin your life?

I tweet and I really enjoy it. I get a ton of value out of it.

But I think about deleting my account every day, because it's an enormous risk for normal people.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#84
> Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting

Those anxieties are driven by the fact that every week someone destroys their career or even life with a single Tweet. In the worst cases, people have been driven to suicide by the backlash to a Tweet of theirs. Unless you are an aspiring celebrity trying to build a career or get a book deal from your Twitter persona, the rational move on Twitter is to not play.

Twitter has the levers to fix this -- they can reduce the exposure of highly viral Tweets, especially by non-celebrities (i.e. people without a lot of existing followers). However that would greatly harm Twitter's business model because people love mobbing on someone and punching them in the face. So the answer to, "why are people hesistant to Tweet?" is that Twitter has decided that it's in its best interests to encourage a highly toxic form of entertainment on its platform.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#86
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting Have they, like, asked people? Also, do they need more people to tweet? It's not like the platform is short of content. Isn't there a role for the comfortable lurker?

I think there's a real concern on Twitter's end with the conversation being dominated by those who are "good with Twitter". That's a big problem because it's kind of a snoozefest to read tweets by a small in-group that you don't know and that won't interact with you. Twitter serves no purpose without interaction.

Which IMO is why Twitter allowing users to lock their replies is actually damaging to Twitter. Now people just Quote Tweet it instead of replying.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#87

That's really too bad. I don't tweet much, maybe once a day, but I really liked using fleets, and lots of people told me they loved seeing them, in DM or @'ing: https://twitter.com/simonsarris/status/1415370626303504389 I want my timeline to be mostly thoughts and nice photography that people can go look at as they please, and I don't want to pollute it or waste follower's time with one-off stuff (like making pasta e…

What is a baseline for tweets per day per regular user? One tweet per day means 365 per year, it looks huge to some people.

For real, my tweet rate is less than once per year, yet I still regularly use the app just to follow some interesting people.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#88

If you think people are held back from tweeting by anxiety, how would you ever come to the conclusion that videos are the solution?

What makes a fleet a fleet isn't a video, it's that it's transient. You can make a text fleet. Or could.

If you've never used a fleet and have read the post, you can use the text from it "Most Fleets include media" to conclude that there exist fleets that do not include media. Video is a form of media. You can then conclude through pure syllogism that fleets do not require video.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#89
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah this explanation smells. Reading between the lines, I'd say that twitter fell prey to a couple of bad predictions. The widely-maligned "pivot to video" that ended up being based on FB fudging the numbers for how much engagement video got, and the idea that duplicating the success of IG or TikTok is just about enabling 30 second video snippets.

Inflated FB video numbers have been known for a long while now - references to it in Sep 2016 https://www.facebook.com/business/news/facebook-video-metric...

The contrast on that text makes me feel like they don't want anyone to actually read it.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#90
post #56

Twitter is great when it comes to transparency. I love how they included this >Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets and talk directly with others. We’ll explore more ways to address what holds people back from participating on Twitter. And for the people who already are Tweet…

Perhaps people are anxious about tweeting because a single tweet can ruin your life?

tweets can't ruin your life any more than talking out loud anywhere else.

the long searchable record is certainly convenient for digging dirt, but public speech is public speech.

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