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Re: GitHub scraped your code. And they plan to charge you

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Post by ghoward »

st_goliath wrote: post #33

> Hi. I know you’re excited about copilot. > ... > It’s truly disappointing to watch people cheer at having their work and time exploited by a company worth billions. Huh? Over the last few days that I've watched this "copilot" story unfold on various news aggregator sites, I've first seen people point out copyright and other issues with it, then the fast inverse square root tweet happened, and then more articles and…

There have been a lot of tweets from developers with access raving about how cool it is.

Re: GitHub scraped your code. And they plan to charge you

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Post by dinglejungle »

st_goliath wrote: post #33

> Hi. I know you’re excited about copilot. > ... > It’s truly disappointing to watch people cheer at having their work and time exploited by a company worth billions. Huh? Over the last few days that I've watched this "copilot" story unfold on various news aggregator sites, I've first seen people point out copyright and other issues with it, then the fast inverse square root tweet happened, and then more articles and…

The comments on the original announcement here were pretty positive: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27676266

Re: GitHub scraped your code. And they plan to charge you

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Post by celdon25 »

st_goliath wrote: post #33

> Hi. I know you’re excited about copilot. > ... > It’s truly disappointing to watch people cheer at having their work and time exploited by a company worth billions. Huh? Over the last few days that I've watched this "copilot" story unfold on various news aggregator sites, I've first seen people point out copyright and other issues with it, then the fast inverse square root tweet happened, and then more articles and…

Well, for whatever reason, the HN thread for it is in the top 30 most upvoted threads of all time. That probably counts for something.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Re: GitHub scraped your code. And they plan to charge you

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Post by rhn_mk1 »

hekec wrote: post #64

On their website they say that "GitHub Copilot is a code synthesizer, not a search engine: the vast majority of the code that it suggests is uniquely generated and has never been seen before. We found that about 0.1% of the time, the suggestion may contain some snippets that are verbatim from the training set." So it won't copypaste your code. It had just read code from open sources and learned from it - similar to w…

First, it does copypaste code: https://docs.github.com/en/github/copilot/research-recitatio...

Second, we can't ignore that if someone deliberately tries to make it spit out copyrighted code, the chances are going to be much greater.

Why would anyone? Plausible deniability: "I didn't copy this GPL procedure, the copilot gave it to me!"

Re: GitHub scraped your code. And they plan to charge you

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Post by ghaff »

nomercy400 wrote: post #80
ghaff wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If an individual hypothetically painstakingly searched through GitHub to see how others wrote an API call and copy-pasted, almost no one would have a problem with that even if they didn't attribute every little code snippet. But some are bringing out the pitchforks because ML can basically do that painstaking search (yes, I know it's not literally a search) so efficiently that it's actually (maybe) useful as a tool.…

Unless, it is searching through repositories which someone paid to keep private. What if that private key you accidentally committed, pushed, removed and pushed last week to your private repo is now showing up in everybody's Copilot?

I would hope they're not using private repos.

Re: GitHub scraped your code. And they plan to charge you

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Post by nomercy400 »

st_goliath wrote: post #33

> Hi. I know you’re excited about copilot. > ... > It’s truly disappointing to watch people cheer at having their work and time exploited by a company worth billions. Huh? Over the last few days that I've watched this "copilot" story unfold on various news aggregator sites, I've first seen people point out copyright and other issues with it, then the fast inverse square root tweet happened, and then more articles and…

How amazing would it be if you could ask a search engine for a piece of working code based on a short description?

That would be exciting tech for me.

Re: GitHub scraped your code. And they plan to charge you

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Post by throwaway2048 »

justbored123 wrote: post #67

I absolutely despise these lot of super entitle people that have absolutely amazing free services provided by companies like GitHub and Google/Youtube and they get all agro because they dared try to monetized or impose some basic rules that don't really affect them at all in any meaningful way.

what about the "super entitle" companies that take code and violate its license.

Re: GitHub scraped your code. And they plan to charge you

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Post by nomercy400 »

gdsdfe wrote: post #2

Nothing is free people! ... People are outraged by GitHub but nobody is going after Facebook or Google for training their AIs on your personal data. Facebook used your face to train some algos, google your personal emails etc.

What if you paid to keep it private?
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