To me Telegram feels like the red corner district of a city. I simply don't feel like I can trust it, there's something very shady about it. I wouldn't be surprised if Telegram reads those exclusive Bitcoin whale groups and uses that insider info. Group chats are not end to end encrypted. That being said, WhatsApp is like the authorized garage where you know that you'll get the service which is officially recognized…
I’m not sure I’d want group chats with thousands of members to be end-to-end encrypted. It doesn’t even seem that clear what the actual utility of it would be.
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#82Telegram has absolutely amazing UX on all platforms I've used it on, I hope they can roll out encryption for group chats soon and show somehow that we can trust that encryption.
Really? Every Telegram group I tried to chat started spamming me with notifications every few seconds and I uninstalled the damn thing. The UI also looks like it was made by a intern who just learned how to use Android Studio, not like something new and cool. The actual text "Telegram" and a magnifying glass button instead of a search bar, hamburger menu instead of your own profile pic, no big fat QR scan icon, ...
That's pretty much how any group chat works on any platform, it's just a simple click to mute it except for direct mentions.
Why do you need your profile instead of a menu? Why a QR icon? Why a search bar?
Those are very minor things on an app that functions extremely well.
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#83Telegram is not E2EE. Avoid.
And again, Telegram __does__ have e2e 1-to-1 secret chats. It's just that the group chats do not. This doesn't stop you from starting a secret chat with each and every person you'd like to chat with e2e.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've never used Clubhouse, but on iOS and macOS Telegram looks and feels very native.. but better . Snappier, faster, more responsive, yet still looks correct , and works as I expect native apps to work.
The thing is though, apps that look native often look like they were made by beginners. The native look on both iOS and Android is also starting to look dated in terms of graphic design. Most popular apps don't use native design but rather artistically always a step ahead of native. Think of e.g. the Airbnb, Uber, Slack, Discord, Instagram apps. If Instagram or Airbnb used native iOS/Android design they'd lose users…
> If Instagram or Airbnb used native iOS/Android design they'd lose users pretty quickly IMO.
Those are services.. where would people go to replace Instagram? Twitter? Airbnb, what other big service has brand mindshare that people know about for fly-by-night unregulated sleeping accomodations?
I don't think iOS/Android design would cause them to lose or gain users.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same. This has been my frustration with Signal lately. They've had a large growth in a userbase but feels like they aren't growing their team fast enough to become real contenders with Telegram and WA. You don't have to move fast and break things, but you do have to move.
The only feature I can think of since that growth annoys the shit out of me. They've started syncing notification settings, so I can either have both my laptop and my phone beeping or none. Combine that with working within a small team that primarily uses Signal and it's absolutely terrible. Leave them off and you'll miss something important. Leave them on and my phone beeps after work hours. And since there's nothin…
"Leave them off and you'll miss something important. Leave them on and my phone beeps after work hours. And since there's nothing in between pausing them for 8h or 1 day, I forget to turn them on in the morning."
My android phone has a global "do not disturb" feature for notifications, so I'm not disturbed during sleeping hours. Can you use that?
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#86To me Telegram feels like the red corner district of a city. I simply don't feel like I can trust it, there's something very shady about it. I wouldn't be surprised if Telegram reads those exclusive Bitcoin whale groups and uses that insider info. Group chats are not end to end encrypted. That being said, WhatsApp is like the authorized garage where you know that you'll get the service which is officially recognized…
Curious how WhatsApp makes you feel screwed over? The work they do to ensure end to end encryption is impressive.
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#87To me Telegram feels like the red corner district of a city. I simply don't feel like I can trust it, there's something very shady about it. I wouldn't be surprised if Telegram reads those exclusive Bitcoin whale groups and uses that insider info. Group chats are not end to end encrypted. That being said, WhatsApp is like the authorized garage where you know that you'll get the service which is officially recognized…
I don’t know if it’s the Russian style or the slightly nsfw emoji it packs by default but the program feels sus. Plus, I feel like it’s only hot news recently because of the Trump-follower-exodus. Plus all the gushing in this thread seems a bit over the top. What’s special about it over WhatsApp or heck even WeChat?
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#88To me Telegram feels like the red corner district of a city. I simply don't feel like I can trust it, there's something very shady about it. I wouldn't be surprised if Telegram reads those exclusive Bitcoin whale groups and uses that insider info. Group chats are not end to end encrypted. That being said, WhatsApp is like the authorized garage where you know that you'll get the service which is officially recognized…
Curious how WhatsApp makes you feel screwed over? The work they do to ensure end to end encryption is impressive.
They hold the decryption keys. Isn't it?
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#89I'm amazed by the pace at which Telegram ships features, and with what finesse.
Indeed. 7.8 is one of the most polished releases.
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#90To me Telegram feels like the red corner district of a city. I simply don't feel like I can trust it, there's something very shady about it. I wouldn't be surprised if Telegram reads those exclusive Bitcoin whale groups and uses that insider info. Group chats are not end to end encrypted. That being said, WhatsApp is like the authorized garage where you know that you'll get the service which is officially recognized…
I’m not sure I’d want group chats with thousands of members to be end-to-end encrypted. It doesn’t even seem that clear what the actual utility of it would be.
From a defensive perspective, I agree, but from an offensive perspective it's way easier to, say, download the contents of the 500 largest channels in the country than having to join those channels yourself.