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Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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Once you learn the propaganda techniques, you start seeing it everywhere in the mainstream media. I used to think about 10% of the mainstream media was propaganda, now it seems like about 90%.

You seem to be conflating "propaganda" with "opinion". And also conflating "propaganda techniques" with "communication".

There is obviously some overlap. Propaganda is inherently opinionated and basic communication techniques used to convey any story of course also work with propaganda.

Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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There's a lot of good content in this article focused on the media. The media is highly visible and well-documented, so it makes sense. I'd like to see more content about indoctrination and propaganda happening in US education. This to me is much more insidious as it takes an impressionable populace (kids and young adults) and provides an authority figure (teachers and professors) that are largely hidden from public…

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Critical Race Theory is affecting both our children's education as well as the military. And the media is playing games right in front of our faces. Here's just one example: IO 26 - Interview with Lt Col Matthew Lohmeier, USAF on CRT in DoD, His Book Irresistible Revolution https://tv.gab.com/channel/creativedestructionmedia/view/io-... Lt. Col. Matthew Lohmeier called out the social justice scam and paid for it with…

Progressive propaganda is insidious not just in schools, but big tech, social media, at NASA and the military, virtue signaling at every opportunity. Completely unchecked and uncontested. I’m fine with the motifs, but what’s not acceptable is inability to criticize aspects of it without people calling you names and gaining moral superiority over you. It alienates people and is dangerous for the society. I have a deep…

You mean, like, science and empathy?

Ffs…

Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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And yet, Ad Hominem is useful, especially since certain channels are clearly propaganda. Is it a shortcut? Yes. But as the blogpost points out, misinformation spreads far more quickly than truth. Its easier to shortcut and label certain outlets as propaganda channels, to help focus the discussion on the few channels which are reliable (Associated Press is good and neutral, and mainly factual)

Ad hominem is never useful. It doesn't tell me anything about the other side and tells me more about you. You don't like the other side. That's what I now know. And misinformation usually has one of the problems that would put it further down the pyramid than actual arguments. It's usually ad hominem or tone policing itself. Or sometimes just a straight up lie. And pointing out those elements would fall under Counter…

> You don't like the other side. That's what I now know.

And that's very useful for establishing which sources we should rely upon in a shared discussion.

My sister's husband was quoting Breitbart news to me. I let him know that I believed that was a propaganda channel. In many discussions, its very important to establish who is, or isn't, a trusted source of information.

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There are others who quote Elon Musk's tweets to me. Many of those tweets have no basis in reality IMO, so I let them know that I don't trust them, and I ask them for another source of information.

Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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Doesn't propaganda require intent? You may be seeing bias but that isn't the same as propaganda.

Bias doesn't exist without intent. Even implicit bias implies intent.

This is not accurate.

Especially regarding implicit bias. Implicit bias is specifically distinct from "regular" bias because is not deliberate and lacks intent.

Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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Just need to turn on CNN or MSNBC right now for modern examples of propaganda. Don't think they really care about left or right, they use politics as a vehicle to keep the masses divided and therefore under control. It also shifts focus away from the growing class gap and how the upper classes are hoarding wealth.

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Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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There's a lot of good content in this article focused on the media. The media is highly visible and well-documented, so it makes sense. I'd like to see more content about indoctrination and propaganda happening in US education. This to me is much more insidious as it takes an impressionable populace (kids and young adults) and provides an authority figure (teachers and professors) that are largely hidden from public…

Do private schools not have propaganda? Student have over a dozen teachers over the course of education. If they "provide whatever narrative they like " it seems students would get a diverse range of perspectives. Not to mention all the perspectives they get from other authorities like their churches, clubs, family members, and... every adult they encounter, and every book too.

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Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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Bias doesn't exist without intent. Even implicit bias implies intent.

This is not accurate. Especially regarding implicit bias . Implicit bias is specifically distinct from "regular" bias because is not deliberate and lacks intent.

Of course there's intent, it is just subconscious.

Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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post #48

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I am sorry but I have no idea how one would come to the conclusion that 90% of journalists are engaging in intentional propaganda. I can understand if you think they have unconscious biases that influence their work, but believing 90% of the profession ix trying to actively manipulate you is just disconnected from reality.

I don't want to necessarily pick on the left here, but the most in-your-face example is all the so-called 'wokeness' in the media. This is a conscious effort to promote the 'inclusiveness' or however you want to phrase it. It's discussed openly how do you want people to react to what you publish. Have you ever considered that it might be your own personal biases that you don't see it?

How does one distinguish between propoganda and universally accepted truth? It's not propaganda that tomorrow is Wednesday. Basically everyone will tell you it is and want you to believe it is. Same with planetary roundness. Is that propaganda too? Let's say for the sake of argument, all of the ideals driving "wokeness" are actually rooted in the truth. Would it still be propaganda? How would you know?

Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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Progressive propaganda is insidious not just in schools, but big tech, social media, at NASA and the military, virtue signaling at every opportunity. Completely unchecked and uncontested. I’m fine with the motifs, but what’s not acceptable is inability to criticize aspects of it without people calling you names and gaining moral superiority over you. It alienates people and is dangerous for the society. I have a deep…

> at NASA Yup... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODfOvQ6FGXI

The message displayed at the end of that video:

>At NASA, we're committed to making air, space, science and technology available for everyone because we know we're stronger and better together.

It will always baffle me that people object to something as innocuous as that.

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