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Re: Ask HN: Anyone built a business with no-code tools?

#81
If you want some great material on no code I'd check out Makerpad.co, I just came across this community and its awesome.

For myself, I just built a website with UMSO, newsletter with GetRevue, and public knowledge base with Notion and Super.so

My newsletter: https://www.getrevue.co/profile/alfiemarsh My website: www.alfie-marsh.com

Public knowledge base: i actually stopped using Super.so because it didn't show databases well - product still has some work to do

I'm also looking into Circle for a membership community and Bubble to create apps.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone built a business with no-code tools?

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post #78

Yes - over the past 2.5 years. We have built products for customers that handle 100s of millions of dollars in transactions using low-code tools along with RPA. While its really great to get started..roadblocks tend be major when compared to opensource frameworks like rails or spring boot. At some point the low-code became more-code than our usual spring boot/rails approach. Integrations with libraries that the platf…

What tools do you use the most?

Low-code: Outsystems, appian, Apex, odoo(not really low-code for the most part)

RPA: robotframework - along with python+java

Also upgrades need to be carefully planned when using low-code tools as we have seen more breaking changes when compared to popular opensource frameworks.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone built a business with no-code tools?

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Honestly I love nocode but only for my own stuff. I wouldn't even want to try mixing nocode and GDPR. It's probably easier to just code the thing haha

I was thinking the opposite - that using no code would actually be easier with GDPR.

You essentially have one sub-processor (the platform). The well-funded no code platforms have established DPAs that make compliance a bit easier, and adhere to things like the SCC to safeguard data transfers across borders.

Of course, your app’s individual privacy policy and practices will ultimately determine whether you’re compliant, but that’s the same case regardless of the approach you take…

Re: Ask HN: Anyone built a business with no-code tools?

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post #68

Honestly I love nocode but only for my own stuff. I wouldn't even want to try mixing nocode and GDPR. It's probably easier to just code the thing haha

I was thinking the opposite - that using no code would actually be easier with GDPR. You essentially have one sub-processor (the platform). The well-funded no code platforms have established DPAs that make compliance a bit easier, and adhere to things like the SCC to safeguard data transfers across borders. Of course, your app’s individual privacy policy and practices will ultimately determine whether you’re complian…

How do you keep up with their policies, and updating every user if you decide to ditch Zapier and use Integromat? What happens if airtable or whatever you're using sells to Facebook?

It's more keeping track of the replaceable moving parts and keeping your users in the loop plus what complying with consents they've given than data storage I'd imagine having issues with.

I could very well be wrong, it just sounds like more work than getting someone to code you up something. I could also care too much, worst case you'd get a slap on the wrist for a first offence (although I personally follow GDPR for moral reasons as well as legal, I am aware others don't care haha)

Re: Ask HN: Anyone built a business with no-code tools?

#87

Beware the lock-in and make sure your roadmap is compatible with low/no code. But definitely doable, I know of several really good examples.

Which low-code tools make it easy to get your data out if you decide to migrate? Which make it impossible/expensive? Any domain examples you can share where it's been successful?

Hence 'beware the lock-in'.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone built a business with no-code tools?

#88
I'm the founder of Makerpad[0] which is built solely with no-code tools, teaching others how to build with no-code tools.

I was full-time on it with a small team for 18 months when we were acquired by Zapier in March this year.

Our revenue was public in 2019/2020-ish and pulled in around $420k/year

[0] https://www.makerpad.co/

Re: Ask HN: Anyone built a business with no-code tools?

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I think that the whole discussion around low-code is missing a pretty fundamental issue: most programming libraries suck. If I need, say, authentication, why do I need to install a library and then read a bunch of documentation on how to use it? Why can't I simply plug it in (just like low-code!) and have it automatically work? I think there is a lot of room to improve developer tooling and that the effort spent ther…

Because authentication is coupled to authorization and authorization is coupled to business rules and data access. If your program does not deal with business rules and data access then it is probably a single-user program (that does not need authentication). I'm over-simplifying of course, but these things sound simple until you ask all the "but-then" and "what-if". If someone actually makes them simple in a way tha…

Authentication should definitely not be coupled with authorization. The only link between the two is an user ID.

AWS very much decoupled authentication from authorization with Cognito and it works very well.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone built a business with no-code tools?

#90

yes - built https://blook.io without code (webflow / zapier / memberstack) and scaled to 100k+ year one

That’s awesome. How did you get customers and do marketing? There are so many of these incorporation filing services.

What are you working on now?

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